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#141 MDI

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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:27 PM

Lol we have one pick next year and one in 2016?  and thats the best year to tank. our team is too good to tank even though we suck lmfao. you have to really bad to tank.

 

or we trade away whatever remaining assets and get picks back. Lets say we trade Nash to someone like Toronto or Milwaukee, we can steal a pick from them thats gonna be borderline top 10


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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:27 PM

they have four measly championships

 

coming in 2nd in Title count to the Lakers since MJ left aint that shabby.


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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:28 PM

I kept telling people they suck


Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:29 PM

or we trade away whatever remaining assets and get picks back. Lets say we trade Nash to someone like Toronto or Milwaukee, we can steal a pick from them thats gonna be borderline top 10

no one would give up a  top 10 pick for steve nash.


Mike D'Antoni is GARBAGE.


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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:31 PM

Remind yourself who are the head coaches of those two teams.

 

If LA would simply hire a coach then this team can move forward in a positive direction. You cannot undersell the value of a competent head coach in professional sports.

 

And what was OKC...before they were OKC? And what exactly are they now? They're fighting for the championship just like the other 29 teams in this league.

 

I'll tell you what we're doing: We're hiring [expletive]ty coaches and retaining [expletive]ty players. We failed in PJ's last season here but we won FIVE CHAMPIONSHIPS with this man, we got our revenge on Boston, and people actually believed we had a shot with PJ at the helm. There's no chance in hell with Mike D'Antoni...I don't care if we tank every year, we'd still lose because there is no one to lead these men.

 

We did change strategy. We tried Mike Brown's micromanage way and it failed; we tried Mike D'Antoni's score score score way and it predictably failed. One strategy that needs to be resurrected among this franchise is making sound decisions and we have not seen that these last few years. So, there's no need to resort to this loser mentality about tanking when we put ourselves in this position with our own stupid decisions. The only thing that we need to be focused on now is how to win...LEGITIMATELY.  

 

 

if its so simple how come nobody is running to the Mavericks?

 

They have a great owner who loves winning

They have a champoinship coach in Rick Carlisle

They have an All star there...Dirk

They have the $ to offer max contracts

No State taxes in Texas!!!

 

And yet Deron Williams, CP3 and Howard this summer didnt go there. Why? Because the rest of the roster sucks.

 

If you give a superstar a roster to be excited about they'll come...regardless of who the coach is. Erik freakin Spolestra aint that good and Lebron went there because Wade and Bosh are in Miami


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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:31 PM

MDI, I am fully with you. It's one season.

The fact is, even if we had Howard, we were not going to go to the Finals. Why do we have to rush Kobe back, waste his energy, and risk another injury again when we will not accomplish anything next season? Let him sit outand rehab. We just need 1 stud rookie, and do our best in 2014 and 2015 to sell oourselves to free agents.

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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:32 PM

no one would give up a  top 10 pick for steve nash.

when they trade their pick they're not gonna know where its gonna end up.  Milwauke/Toronto/Charlotte dont have steady PG's I think we can convince them but Nash needs to get his trade value up first to start the season.  We need to make these trades at mid season and cash them in and get 1st round picks back.


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Posted July 07, 2013 - 08:36 PM

when they trade their pick they're not gonna know where its gonna end up. Milwauke/Toronto/Charlotte dont have steady PG's I think we can convince them but Nash needs to get his trade value up first to start the season. We need to make these trades at mid season and cash them in and get 1st round picks back.


That's why we should keep MDA just for THIS SEASON ONLY. He will pump up their values, and we can trade them before the deadline. Everyone except Kobe is expandable. I just hope MDA does not run anyone to the ground and we get nothing for them.

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 04:05 PM

It has begun. Plan B it is


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 05:44 PM

The tell-tale sign will be how long Kobe ends up sitting out. 

 

They will likel be willng to trade Pau for a pick + trade X at any point (however unlikely it may be).  If they really do amnesty Ron, then they are strictly cutting cost (can't you trade Ron for something?) and not at all considering defense.

 

Nash is an attractive trade chip at the deadline.

 

It has begun. Plan B it is


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 06:27 PM

The tell-tale sign will be how long Kobe ends up sitting out.

They will likel be willng to trade Pau for a pick + trade X at any point (however unlikely it may be). If they really do amnesty Ron, then they are strictly cutting cost (can't you trade Ron for something?) and not at all considering defense.

Nash is an attractive trade chip at the deadline.


Someone like Toronto might give us a first rounder for Nash, but that might be to much. First rounder for Nash and Pau would be nice. Especially this year.

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 08:59 PM

You're going to be very sad when we win 50 games and get to th eplayoffs



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 09:50 PM

What's next for the Lakers?

 

 

Where do the Lakers go from here?

 


Edited by    , July 08, 2013 - 09:53 PM.

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Posted July 09, 2013 - 01:20 AM

We can do a all three things in moderation!! We will most likely miss the playoffs or be a 8th seed so we might have the 8-12th pick and in a deep draft we can get somebody good ... And then sign a big free agent in the offseason and move some dead weight around for draft picks

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Posted July 09, 2013 - 04:52 AM

If Kobe is healthy and performs well, and Pau bounces back and returns to pre-2011 play-off form, and Nash fully recovers from his leg/back/hip problems, then I will be thrilled.

 

 

 

You're going to be very sad when we win 50 games and get to th eplayoffs

 

 

You're going to be very sad when we win 50 games and get to th eplayoffs


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Posted July 09, 2013 - 08:17 AM

The answer is simple, COMPETE. All this talk about tanking makes me sick and I know it would make one Kobe Bean Bryant as well. 

 

Everyone is underestimating this team tremendously, were by no means the favorites but are still very good. We still have Kobe Bryant who I believe will come back as strong as ever, we still have Steve Nash who when healthy and put on a minute limit to keep him fresh is a top PG, and we still  have Pau Gasol who when used correctly which is at the C in this part of his career is a top PF/C in the league.

 

Along with those three the Lakers have quality role players in Jordan Hill, Steve Blake, Jodie Meeks(will have a bounce back season), and recently added Chris Kaman.

 

Despite if you think we will contend or not I will never encourage tanking.

 

Kobe still believes this team can compete and I am with him, I will be rooting for this team to win to the very last game, period.


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Posted July 09, 2013 - 09:57 AM

Nash is 38 years old and done! His passing lanes get cut off by longer more athletic point guards because his speed is lacking... There will always be room in the NBA for bigger point guards because even after the speed is gone, they still have their size (Payton, Kidd, Stockton, Harper). Wall is 6'5 and is working with Gary Payton as we speak! Iguodala would have been great to put along side Kobe also at the small forward position. He could have helped out alot for defensive and athletic deficiencies we have. We still need a big man beside Pau. Chris Kaman might be a tough enough body but we have to see. My ideal starting 5 would be

 

Wall

Bryant

Iguodala

Gasol

Kaman

 

Iguodala is with the warriors now so finding a guy that is athletic, can shoot and plays exceptional defense is what should be in mind plus speed at the guard position off the bench like we used to have in Farmer, Brown and sasha.

This is a Phil type team(Athletic and defensive minds that can play in a system) and even D'antoni can win with this team because its athletic and fast at the point guard position.



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Posted July 09, 2013 - 06:02 PM

Nash is 38 years old and done! His passing lanes get cut off by longer more athletic point guards because his speed is lacking... There will always be room in the NBA for bigger point guards because even after the speed is gone, they still have their size (Payton, Kidd, Stockton, Harper). Wall is 6'5 and is working with Gary Payton as we speak! Iguodala would have been great to put along side Kobe also at the small forward position. He could have helped out alot for defensive and athletic deficiencies we have. We still need a big man beside Pau. Chris Kaman might be a tough enough body but we have to see. My ideal starting 5 would be

 

Wall

Bryant

Iguodala

Gasol

Kaman

 

Iguodala is with the warriors now so finding a guy that is athletic, can shoot and plays exceptional defense is what should be in mind plus speed at the guard position off the bench like we used to have in Farmer, Brown and sasha.

This is a Phil type team(Athletic and defensive minds that can play in a system) and even D'antoni can win with this team because its athletic and fast at the point guard position.

So what happen from 36 and 38 that made him go from a PG that almost single handedly took a sub-par Phoenix Suns cast to the playoffs to where he is now? he isnt finished. He got injured 2 games into the season and was forced back too soon, give him a chance to have a full season without the pressure of playing big minutes right away.


Edited by Shooter871, July 09, 2013 - 06:03 PM.

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Posted July 09, 2013 - 10:29 PM

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Posted July 09, 2013 - 10:33 PM

D) Bring back all the OGs from your previous championship runs.


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