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#61 Cj2008nw

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Posted July 01, 2013 - 09:41 AM

Nash would be a lot more effective in a triangle offense than D'antoni offense

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Posted July 02, 2013 - 02:37 AM

Who has ever shut those guys down in their prime? You just named all repeat ALL STARS. Fish obviously slowed down plenty while holding up all 5 of his rings. You named a few guys that no one has ever stopped. What about the other 50 guards he had to defend and take charges against. What was Fishers steal stats the first 8 years of his career compared to your All Star Steve Blake

You talking about when bibby used to light him up or Troy Hudson or Damon Stodamire or jason Williams orWHEN has Fisher EVER slowed down ANY PG that the Lakers faced.

 

Iverson?

 

oops..try again.

 

 

Fish never shut down ANYONe, BUT he had defensive intangibles, he got big steals and took charges at the right time.

 

 

nash is similar, but you just have to give him a chance.

 

if he sucked, like Sessions, I would say it, but his reputation is worse than his defense truly is in my opinon



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Posted July 02, 2013 - 02:49 AM

Lakers don't Tank?? Ask Vlade, Smush Parker and Rudy T if that's not the case  :laughing: we're at a point where the CBA will force teams who held on to players a little too long to tank every blue moon. Even if D12 signs we still will need Kobe to sign an ungodly low contract (if he decides to play 2 years after his current contract) to secure our future. And that not building through the draft attitude will not work in a couple of years. GM's are REALLY going to have to work their butts off more than ever starting next year.



Lakers don't tank so you can stop right there :)



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Posted July 02, 2013 - 03:00 AM

Lakers don't Tank?? Ask Vlade, Smush Parker and Rudy T if that's not the case  :laughing: we're at a point where the CBA will force teams who held on to players a little too long to tank every blue moon. Even if D12 signs we still will need Kobe to sign an ungodly low contract (if he decides to play 2 years after his current contract) to secure our future. And that not building through the draft attitude will not work in a couple of years. GM's are REALLY going to have to work their butts off more than ever starting next year.



That wasn't us intentionally tanking. 

We've never intentionally had a bad season just to get a high draft pick.

And that terrible team that didn't make the playoffs that Kobe had an injured year, the Chucky Atkins one was part of a grander plan as a lot of those pieces came in handy for trades later.  What did we spend one year out of contention?  Kobe dealing with a flood of injuries that year had a lot to do with that too. 

We made the playoffs every other year after that, it wasn't us tanking either it was just the cards we were dealt.    But we never decided to intentionally have a bad season in HOPES of getting a high draft pick. 

We trade for the picks.  We don't lose for them.


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Posted July 03, 2013 - 04:12 PM

Oh!! You mean sandbag!! No we don't lose on purpose but we sure have taken it on the chin a few times. Could you imagine if Karl Malone didn't get hurt that one year or Shaq and Kobe weren't stupid enough to feud like that?? Kobe would be sitting on 7 or 8 rings by now. They'd still be talking that crap about can he do it without Shaq though.



That wasn't us intentionally tanking. 

We've never intentionally had a bad season just to get a high draft pick.

And that terrible team that didn't make the playoffs that Kobe had an injured year, the Chucky Atkins one was part of a grander plan as a lot of those pieces came in handy for trades later.  What did we spend one year out of contention?  Kobe dealing with a flood of injuries that year had a lot to do with that too. 

We made the playoffs every other year after that, it wasn't us tanking either it was just the cards we were dealt.    But we never decided to intentionally have a bad season in HOPES of getting a high draft pick. 

We trade for the picks.  We don't lose for them.



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Posted July 04, 2013 - 08:08 AM

Sandbagging is the oldman's tanking. FYI!


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Posted July 05, 2013 - 05:15 PM

You guys keep talking about Fisher getting lit up. You obviously didn't watch him the first 7 or 8 years of his career. No he didn't stop AI and no he didn't stop Tony Parker but who did?? 22 to 29 year old Fisher was a very solid defender. Believe me. You wouldn't know unless you were watching almost every game as I did back then



Fisher gave up career highs to other point guards while scoring 6 points.

Nash is switched defensively on the spot up shooters of other teams and even when another point guard teams him up he can still score 17 while playing off ball to Kobe while being the best shooting point guard in the game.


We've never had a defensive point guard, if you want one wait for Rondo or Irving. 

But we do have the best shooting point guard in the game who is shooting off ball to one of the most defensively paid attention to players in the game.   Perfect scenario.

if Dwight returns, you'll see more pick and roll with him and Kobe than you will with him and Nash because of the defensive attention Kobe garners that Nash no longer does.



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Posted July 05, 2013 - 05:17 PM

True True True!!!  LOL  That's oldschool baby!!

Sandbagging is the oldman's tanking. FYI!






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