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#41 Ven

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Posted June 29, 2013 - 03:43 AM

Maybe we should have!! Let's keep it real. If Kobe isn't very healthy by January and D12 walks we are a lottery team. We were damn near a lottery team last year.  Boston will actually make the playoffs with a healthy Rondo and they got a million draft picks in the deal. Good Job Boston!! Take notice Mitch. Have some balls. By the way, no matter how much cap space we have next year, LeBron and Carmello aren't coming here. We need to find our Paul George. We need to ensure the team we surround Nash and Kobe with are very good and young. What would be wrong with a team of 5 to 7 million dollar players. Your Nick Young's, JR Smith's, Tyreke Evans, Demarcus Cousin's and Jeff Green's. You put players LIKE that under the leadership of Nash, Kobe and maybe DFish on the coaching staff and you'll have something special

 

Again Nash and Kobe provide leadership, but ultimately this falls under what everyone has either been screaming or questioning, coaching. With a bloated salary, the Lakers FO is severely limited until 2014, unless certain trades come their way that are vary favorable. The issues with this roster go deeper than just D12, because even when and if you sign him, 2013 looks iffy at best for the Lakers.

 

Granted this 2013 Free Agency has very good serviceable players like Hickson, Millsap, and Landry, but none are gonna come for a MLE. Many other teams will overbid on them putting them out of reach.



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Posted June 29, 2013 - 08:07 AM

my advice is we need to face reality

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#43 noknife

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Posted June 29, 2013 - 08:48 AM

Slam that reset button.  People need to face the reality that if they are "championship or bust" there is basically no scenario where the Lakers win a championship next season.  Their best player is old, and coming off the worst injury of his career, Dwight Howard isn't the player that he used to be, and quite frankly a piece to a championship team, not the focal point, Steve Nash is old and the only thing more automatic than his free throw shooting is penciling him in to miss 30 plus games with nagging injuries, their coach is an absolute joke, Pau Gasol hasn't been great in 3 seasons, and ultimately and most importantly, Lebron James exists.  This team is severely flawed, but the FO has a great opportunity in the fact that almost all their big contracts expire this season, and their will be a historic free agent as well as draft class in 2014.  If they do the right thing and just take their medicine they can probably rebuild this thing relatively quickly if not they can set themselves back quite a ways.  Let Dwight walk or sign him, either way doesn't matter, let Pau and Kobes huge contracts expire, see if anyone has interest in Nash for an expiring contract or a first round draft pick (unlikely), move forward.



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Posted June 29, 2013 - 08:57 AM

they taking it easy without panicking like you guys.


Mike D'Antoni is GARBAGE.


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Posted June 29, 2013 - 08:57 AM

2014 is the rest button

Have u not been paying attention


It's not even July 1st. My god, Laker fans have no patience.

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Posted June 29, 2013 - 09:31 AM

2014 is the rest button

Have u not been paying attention


It's not even July 1st. My god, Laker fans have no patience.

Patience?!? What are you talking about? Forget the [expletive]ing beginning of the free agency period. Recruiting have already begun and everyone knows what the options are and everyone knows what type of things go into Dwight's decision making process.

 

Being in LA, playing on a team that is willing to build around you, playing in a system and with a coach that fits Dwight's skillset etc. These things are to a large degree areas that can be controlled by Mitch and Jim Buss, but they have done nothing so far. 

 

The mother of all no-brainer moves would have been to get Phil into the organisation either as a coach or in the front office and then perhaps with Brian Shaw as coach, but they stubbornly hold on to the incompetent D'Antoni.

 

In case you haven't noticed, patience so far have pushed Dwight further away from the Lakers than he was earlier in the month and pieces are moving around the league and good coaches like Alvin Gentry, Nate McMillan and Brian Shaw suddently aren't available anymore. This is highly problematic, since the one thing that pushes D12 away is [expletive]ing D'Antoni. 



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Posted June 29, 2013 - 09:55 AM

That's all assumed

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Posted June 29, 2013 - 10:08 AM

So if Dwight leaves would you consider a more mature Demarcus Cousins??

Honestly, that's like me asking if we should consider signing a younger Michael Jordan.  It's not going to happen.

 

Cousins' issues aren't just related to immaturity.  He's just not that smart of a player.  He has poor shot selection, he usually comes up missing on the defensive end, and he has this belief that he's simply better than he really is.  The maturity issues (ex. not respecting the coach, devaluing teammates) is only the tip of the iceberg with him.



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Posted June 30, 2013 - 09:42 AM

Maybe we should have!! Let's keep it real. If Kobe isn't very healthy by January and D12 walks we are a lottery team. We were damn near a lottery team last year.  

I am thinking the same thing.  Boston had the good sense to realize when the run was over, trade assets while they still had  some value, stockpile picks and build around a young player.  We might have considered a similar path, but we don't have the tradeable assets that Boston did.

 

So we are forced to rebuild with FAs and our own draft picks.

 

Oh but wait, the FO already mortgaged the future:

-2014 1st round pick but no 2nd round pick in a deep draft

-2015  No 1st round pick (unless its in the top 5, which could happen now)

-2017  No 1st round pick

 

The same folks that are still defending Mitch will be calling for his head in due time.



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Posted June 30, 2013 - 09:45 AM

I am thinking the same thing. Boston had the good sense to realize when the run was over, trade assets while they still had some value, stockpile picks and build around a young player. We might have considered a similar path, but we don't have the tradeable assets that Boston did.

So we are forced to rebuild with FAs and our own draft picks.

Oh but wait, the FO already mortgaged the future:
-2014 1st round pick but no 2nd round pick in a deep draft
-2015 No 1st round pick (unless its in the top 5, which could happen now)
-2017 No 1st round pick

The same folks that are still defending Mitch will be calling for his head in due time.



No they won't. Just fans that like to worry and panic and complain and [expletive] all the time.

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Posted June 30, 2013 - 09:52 AM

That's all assumed

What is all assumed???

 

That McMillan and Shaw are unavailable now?

 

That Dwight is not enamored with MDA?

 

That bringing Phil back onto the scene would help recruitment of Dwight?



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Posted June 30, 2013 - 09:56 AM

No they won't. Just fans that like to worry and panic and complain and [expletive] all the time.

Time will tell, won't it?  Given the dearth of draft picks, the now depleted and old roster  our main rebuild option has to come via the FA route... how attractive a destination will we be to the "big" FAs in 2014?  Yeah it's LA and all that, I get that.

 

If Mitch doesn't land a primo FA in 2014, let's see what fans think of him then.



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Posted June 30, 2013 - 11:17 AM

What is all assumed???

 

That McMillan and Shaw are unavailable now?

 

That Dwight is not enamored with MDA?

 

That bringing Phil back onto the scene would help recruitment of Dwight?


And Rambis to the coaching staff which you forgot.


 

I've always liked Steve Blake.

 





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