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#41 LakersGAFan

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Posted May 12, 2014 - 09:22 AM

Tony Parker is the games best PG easy. It took a 6'8" Lebron to guard him in the Finals and he still made plays.

 

Theres no comparison between TP and CP3's ability.

CP3 must first do something of substance to prove himself. Not just throw highlight lobs up during regular season games.

Bump from 1 year ago almost....
TP is still the best PG in the game. Its been Tony Parker for about 5 seasons now. During the regular season he just hangs low and facilitates per Pop's game plan, which is usually enough to get the #1 seed. Then come playoff time he dominates 10x more than CP3 that is billed the games best PG. But Tony Parker never gets the credit. Other than the fact hes still the only Finals MVP of ALL current PGs.
And I found it interesting to see peoples opinions and how it can change in a single season. Lots of players went up and down

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Posted May 12, 2014 - 09:25 AM

I disagree, I think it's CP3, CP is more of a floor general than TP in my opinion, TP is #2 though 


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 09:35 AM

I disagree, I think it's CP3, CP is more of a floor general than TP in my opinion, TP is #2 though 

thats cool. most people dont even give TP the 2 spot...lol


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 09:47 AM

It's still CP3 


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 10:09 AM

All I know is in the 80s Magic or Stockton were arguably the BEST PG's in the game. Neither of them had problems getting out of the 2nd round of the Playoffs. And Isiah Thomas didnt have a problem either...and he was always coined as 3rd best. In the 90's-00's AI/Kidd/Nash were the best PG's...they to never had a issue consistently reaching the deep playoff rounds. And neither did Chauncey who everyone over looked but always was in the top 5 talks.

 

CP3 has only made the 2nd round 2 or 3x in his career and never beyond that.
On the flip side TP just played his 6,623 playoff minutes.
In comparison:
Kobe- 8,641
Duncan- 8,493
Magic- 7,538
MJ-7,474
Tony Parker- 6,623
Stockton- 6,398
CP3- 1,975

And Tony has more Finals minutes than any current PG. And he has the Finals MVP.
This is a article from Last year when this same argument became debatable again. Then another season starts. The flashy shoe ads and espn dunk highlights show 1,000 more times and everyone forgets that come playoff time...the cream rises to the top.
 

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Tony Parker's Playoff Resume Taking 'Best PG' Crown Away from Chris Paul

When Tony Parker was selected as the 28th overall pick in the 2001 draft, no one—including the San Antonio Spurs—could have predicted the career that the 19-year-old Frenchman would go on to have.

It took just one season for the explosive young point guard to prove himself as one of the greatest draft-day steals in NBA history. Now, nearly 12 years later, Parker is not only an above-average late-first-round pick, but a potential Hall of Famer.

For years, Parker was considered a borderline All-Star, sneaking into the game in some years and barely missing it during others. However, he was rarely considered one of the best for a long time.

Initially a stranger to the "best point guard" discussions, Parker was often thought to be a tier below the league's most elite—which featured the talents of Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul and Deron Williams. 

The league's best point guard has been widely debated, though Chris Paul has made an appearance in every argument for a while—to the point where many will instinctively award him the title. Recently, though, Parker has joined the discussion, and for the first time in his career—San Antonio's superstar point guard may be worthy of the honor.


Edited by LakersGAFan, May 12, 2014 - 10:10 AM.

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Posted May 12, 2014 - 10:29 AM

TP is a bigtime playoff performer.

But really a case can be made for Westbrook, CP3, and even Lillard are having just as good or better postseason.

I'd take any of them


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 10:40 AM

Results/Winning matter to me a lot so in that regard I have to go with TP as well.



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Posted May 12, 2014 - 11:23 AM

All I know is in the 80s Magic or Stockton were arguably the BEST PG's in the game. Neither of them had problems getting out of the 2nd round of the Playoffs. And Isiah Thomas didnt have a problem either...and he was always coined as 3rd best. In the 90's-00's AI/Kidd/Nash were the best PG's...they to never had a issue consistently reaching the deep playoff rounds. And neither did Chauncey who everyone over looked but always was in the top 5 talks.

 

CP3 has only made the 2nd round 2 or 3x in his career and never beyond that.
On the flip side TP just played his 6,623 playoff minutes.
In comparison:
Kobe- 8,641
Duncan- 8,493
Magic- 7,538
MJ-7,474
Tony Parker- 6,623
Stockton- 6,398
CP3- 1,975

And Tony has more Finals minutes than any current PG. And he has the Finals MVP.
This is a article from Last year when this same argument became debatable again. Then another season starts. The flashy shoe ads and espn dunk highlights show 1,000 more times and everyone forgets that come playoff time...the cream rises to the top.
 


The unfortunate truth is Parker's never been the best player on his team in any of the championship or deep playoff runs years. That's why he has won more than Chris Paul.   

THAT distinction was stolen from Chris Paul when David Stern vetoed the trade because then Paul would be the 2nd best player on a team. 

if Chris Paul is the 2nd or 3rd best player on a roster like Tony Parker has been before he'd have championships too.  


Edited by Majesty, May 12, 2014 - 11:23 AM.

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Posted May 12, 2014 - 11:50 AM

TP is so underrated.

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Posted May 12, 2014 - 12:11 PM

I think Parker is the best. He's an underrated defender and his game has improved so much since he came in the league.

 

He's been the best player on the Spurs for 6 or 7 years now and they still have had tremendous success. 



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Posted May 12, 2014 - 12:49 PM

Still has to be CP3 in my opinion, I mean look at how he took out the reigning MVP from the game in crunch time lol.



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Posted May 12, 2014 - 01:14 PM

It's not even funny how unstoppable Parker is. I still think other teams need to put him on his tail from time to time. 


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 01:45 PM

I wouldn't say the best but I will say the guy steps up his game big time in the playoffs. Once the postseason starts it's like his game multiplies
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Posted May 12, 2014 - 01:47 PM

CP3 is at 20/10

 

TP is at 22/6

 

Still take CP3


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 01:57 PM

Once the postseason starts it's like his game multiplies

 

'11/'12 Regular Season: 18/8/48% FG/32 MPG

'11/'12 Postseason: 20/7/45% FG/36 MPG

 

'12/13 Regular Season: 20/8/52% FG/33 MPG

'12/13 Postseason: 21/7/46% FG/36 MPG

 

'13/14 Regular Season: 17/6/50% FG/29 MPG

'13/'14 Postseason: 22/6/49% FG/34 MPG

 

Looks the same to me...if not worse.


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 02:03 PM

The thing is they play really alike, but CP3 puts up better numbers, especially in the assist column. Everyone credits CP3 for being one of the most clutch performers in our game, while TP is just as good in late game scenarios. Thing is though, the Spurs are usually blowing out teams and TP doesn't really need to turn it up as much as CP3 has to in order to win games  :laughing: . He averaged what, 29MPG? Ridiculous efficiency. 

 

Most people don't watch the Spurs, even in the playoffs, so they dismiss any statements said about TP being a very good defender.



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Posted May 12, 2014 - 03:03 PM

Tony Parker is far less ball dominant than cp3

Is take tony 8/10 times in the playoffs, he's proven as a winner
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Posted May 12, 2014 - 03:20 PM

Tony Parker is far less ball dominant than cp3

Is take tony 8/10 times in the playoffs, he's proven as a winner


Tony's always been the 2nd or 3rd best player on his team when they were winning in the playoffs.   

Paul hasn't had that benefit.  If he had, he would have had a championship or two by now.  If you switched them places and put Tony on New orleans and the Clippers and Chris Paul on the Spurs for that run what do you think happens? 


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 03:44 PM

Replace Parker with Paul on the Spurs..........they are much much scarier.

 

Would have beat the Heat last year. No doubt.


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Posted May 12, 2014 - 03:46 PM

Taking Cp3 all day and night


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