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#41 CaliforniaSoul

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 01:00 PM

Hardly anything was different about the Knicks. Mike Woodson knew how to use Melo in ways that MDA couldn't ad wouldn't (Stubborn) and Woodson had the team playing much better defense.

There's also the little fact that MDA angered the franchise player in NY, as he is won't to do everywhere he goes with his general mookitude

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 06:17 PM

Hardly anything was different about the Knicks. Mike Woodson knew how to use Melo in ways that MDA couldn't ad wouldn't (Stubborn) and Woodson had the team playing much better defense.

There's also the little fact that MDA angered the franchise player in NY, as he is won't to do everywhere he goes with his general mookitude


Woodson looked just as inept as D'antoni a majority of the time, the Knicks just got off to a faster start.  


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Posted June 14, 2013 - 07:22 PM

Jason Kidd as a veteran presence. JR Smith with a training camp. Ray Felton returned( had really good year as a Knick last go round).

 

 

Put it like this...we added Pau, and Derek Fisher and went from barely making the playoffs to 3 consecutive Finals.

 

In fact before Pau came, we were in 1st place based off of improvements from Bynum and vujacic, while adding Fisher to replace Smush.

 

 

roster tweaks make a big difference.



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Posted June 14, 2013 - 08:01 PM

I want Shaw because he learned under Phil Jackson, then coached under Vogel, and it was obvious both the Lakers and Pacers players loved him. He will run an offensive system I believe in that suits our personnel (one that features more post ups) and with one or two small additions I think he could improve our defense. B-Shaw baby. Do it....do it.

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 10:16 PM

Jason Kidd as a veteran presence. JR Smith with a training camp. Ray Felton returned( had really good year as a Knick last go round).
 
 
Put it like this...we added Pau, and Derek Fisher and went from barely making the playoffs to 3 consecutive Finals.
 
In fact before Pau came, we were in 1st place based off of improvements from Bynum and vujacic, while adding Fisher to replace Smush.
 
 
roster tweaks make a big difference.

You're comparing additions like JR Smith and J Kidd to Pau Gasol?

Pau Gasol was a all star. No surprise he improved the Lakers tremendously. It's not often the most skilled big man in the league drops into your lap.

Smith and Kidd are okay role players. They're not on 2008 Gasol level so I don't see the comparison. That Ney York team QUIT on D'Antoni and tuned him out. Surely that doesn't look good on MDA, does it?

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 02:09 PM

Because he is Phil's protege. MDA is garbage.

Mike D'Antoni is GARBAGE.


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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:05 PM

You're comparing additions like JR Smith and J Kidd to Pau Gasol?

Pau Gasol was a all star. No surprise he improved the Lakers tremendously. It's not often the most skilled big man in the league drops into your lap.

Smith and Kidd are okay role players. They're not on 2008 Gasol level so I don't see the comparison. That Ney York team QUIT on D'Antoni and tuned him out. Surely that doesn't look good on MDA, does it?

Quit?

 

Do you remember Lin-Sanity? Do you remember why Lin-sanity started/ B/c ALL of the starters were INJURED. They had the type of injury-plagued season we did.

 

 

MDA didn't do a good job whatsoever in NY, but tell the truth.

 

If anything, he quit on the team.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:06 PM

Quit?
 
Do you remember Lin-Sanity? Do you remember why Lin-sanity started/ B/c ALL of the starters were INJURED. They had the type of injury-plagued season we did.
 
 
MDA didn't do a good job whatsoever in NY, but tell the truth.
 
If anything, he quit on the team.

And you are in favor of a coach that quit on a team.

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:10 PM

I'm in favor of giving him a training camp, because there is NO Superstar coach, who is going to change ANYTHING.

 

 

It seems no one gets that we are rebuilding, even with all these stars. We dont need another YEAr of trying to figure out a system. Kobe even said that.

 

 

So, lets go with what we have and in 2014, talk to me about potential coaching changes.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:20 PM

I'm in favor of giving him a training camp, because there is NO Superstar coach, who is going to change ANYTHING.


It seems no one gets that we are rebuilding, even with all these stars. We dont need another YEAr of trying to figure out a system. Kobe even said that.


So, lets go with what we have and in 2014, talk to me about potential coaching changes.


What the hell are you talking about. If Dwight re-signs, we are going to go all-out to win next season.

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:25 PM

What the hell are you talking about. If Dwight re-signs, we are going to go all-out to win next season.

Exactly.

This team is not a 7th seed team if Dwight resigns and there are a few changes(Coach included)

It is a 7 seed or worse if MDA is the coach. What has he showed otherwise? He doesn't know how to coach the players on this team. Indiana and Memphis both showed you can still win with big men being featured and he wants no part of that because "system" and "the ball finds energy".

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:54 PM

I'm in favor of giving him a training camp, because there is NO Superstar coach, who is going to change ANYTHING.

 

 

It seems no one gets that we are rebuilding, even with all these stars. We dont need another YEAr of trying to figure out a system. Kobe even said that.

 

 

So, lets go with what we have and in 2014, talk to me about potential coaching changes.

Hollins may not be a superstar coach but there would be change. He would know how to use a post player unlike the idiot MDA.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 05:59 PM

Hollins may not be a superstar coach but there would be change. He would know how to use a post player unlike the idiot MDA.

And both got swept by San Antonio.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 06:01 PM

What the hell are you talking about. If Dwight re-signs, we are going to go all-out to win next season.

And we'll be LUCKY. Lucky if Kobe returns to All-Star( forget ELITE) level

Lucky if we get something for Pau or something out of him. He has been inconsistent and declining for 4 seasons now.

 

We'll be lucky if Nash holds up. And we'll be fortunate if Dwight resigns.

 

We are losing Jamison from what ir seems, so our bench gets worse, and LeBron is still in his prime.

 

 

 

So I'm not sure if we'll win the title next season, to say the least.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 06:22 PM

And both got swept by San Antonio.

Because losing 14 of your last 15 playoff games is so much better amiritetellmeimrite?

Hollins got that team to play above their talent level. MDA got this team to play below theirs all season long until all the players were hurt and buried.

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 06:28 PM

Above?

 

Mike Conley and Marc Gasol are both two players that made leaps in their game. Zach Randolph is Top 3 at his poisition. And then perimeter defenders, and shooters and thats the recipe for a good regular season team , but not a playoff one.

 

 

Hollins is basically D'Antoni.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 06:34 PM

Above?
 
Mike Conley and Marc Gasol are both two players that made leaps in their game. Zach Randolph is Top 3 at his poisition. And then perimeter defenders, and shooters and thats the recipe for a good regular season team , but not a playoff one.
 
 
Hollins is basically D'Antoni.

Mike Conley was a bum until Hollins got there a few years ago. Conley even said so himself that he owes almost all of his success to Hollins' patience with him and working with him.

Marc Gasol wasn't an all NBA defender before Hollins was there. He was hardly playing.

Yeah, Hollins is basically D'Antoni, except he coaches defense and big men and teams actually want him to coach their team.

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 08:02 PM

Mike Conley was a bum until Hollins got there a few years ago. Conley even said so himself that he owes almost all of his success to Hollins' patience with him and working with him.

Marc Gasol wasn't an all NBA defender before Hollins was there. He was hardly playing.

Yeah, Hollins is basically D'Antoni, except he coaches defense and big men and teams actually want him to coach their team.

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The underlying factor is that the Grizzlies still would be a losing team under Hollins if they'd never got 20/12 monster Zach Randolph :)

But I already made a long post about all that X_X


Edited by Majesty, June 16, 2013 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted June 18, 2013 - 01:00 PM

Cuz most Laker fans cant let go & they are stubborn to a fault with players & coaches they want on the team.


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Posted June 24, 2013 - 04:13 PM

He's a Nugget. It's official.


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