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#1 MDI

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Posted May 30, 2013 - 10:00 AM

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Posted May 30, 2013 - 11:19 AM

They're right obviously and kudos to them for not holding back. He's both a flopper and dirty at the same time. As bad as it gets. No surprise why so many people don't like nor respect him as a player.


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Posted May 30, 2013 - 12:13 PM

I love how people who play actual / tough defense are now considered to be dirty.

 

Fans and some players of today wouldn't have last 1 minute without freaking out if basketball was played like it used be when the league was in its heyday.



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Posted May 30, 2013 - 01:29 PM

I love how people who play actual / tough defense are now considered to be dirty.

 

Fans and some players of today wouldn't have last 1 minute without freaking out if basketball was played like it used be when the league was in its heyday.

i don't respect him for flopping so severely... he doesn't play like they used to play in the 90s or 80s


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Posted May 30, 2013 - 01:37 PM

He may flop, but he does play great defense.

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Posted May 30, 2013 - 01:38 PM

^ When he's not flopping or being dirty yes.


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Posted May 30, 2013 - 01:46 PM

Battier got nothing on Dwayne Wade. If you talking about dirty player, D Wade takes the cake. 


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Posted May 30, 2013 - 01:51 PM

I love how people who play actual / tough defense are now considered to be dirty.

 

Fans and some players of today wouldn't have last 1 minute without freaking out if basketball was played like it used be when the league was in its heyday.

And how was it played, then ? Back in its heyday. I swear a lot of these old school players/fans act like back then every possession you got elbowed. It is so overrated IMO. Yes, of course it was more phsical back then but not as much as some of you make it seem. 


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Posted May 30, 2013 - 02:29 PM

And how was it played, then ? Back in its heyday. I swear a lot of these old school players/fans act like back then every possession you got elbowed. It is so overrated IMO. Yes, of course it was more phsical back then but not as much as some of you make it seem. 

it was much more physical back in the days. Today any hard foul is a flagrant.



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Posted May 30, 2013 - 09:10 PM

He's not being considered dirty for his gritty defense, but for sliding into people's knees on purpose. He does this consistently, just like Bowen used to. It doesn't matter what era you're playing in, that's a dirty move no matter what. You don't slide into players knees in a sport where guys are airborne or rapidly stopping and going all over the floor. That's just bush league.



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Posted May 31, 2013 - 01:26 PM

It was far more physical, far more back then.

 

I know a lot of younger fans don't want to admit that the league has gotten much, much softer, but it has and the game of basketball (along with the players and fans) have gotten softer from it.

 

Plays like that were done all the time before, all the time.



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Posted May 31, 2013 - 01:46 PM

Not to mention every play he's in he seems to fall down.


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Posted May 31, 2013 - 05:39 PM

Always disliked him. Surprised he's never been a Spur

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Posted May 31, 2013 - 06:58 PM

Dude seems like a nice guy, but i cant stand his flopping.

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Posted May 31, 2013 - 11:48 PM

It was far more physical, far more back then.

 

I know a lot of younger fans don't want to admit that the league has gotten much, much softer, but it has and the game of basketball (along with the players and fans) have gotten softer from it.

 

Plays like that were done all the time before, all the time.

 

That's true, but going under a player on a jumper is dirty no matter what. Doesn't matter the era, you don't go out of your way to close out and bump a players knee on the way down.

 

And I can't really agree that it happened "all the time" back then because perimeter defense was absolute trash. I've got a collection at home of about 20+ playoff games from the 80s between good teams (Lakers/Sixers, Celtics/Pistons, Rockets/Celtics, etc.) and people were getting wide open looks all the damn time. This same trend can be seen in almost any classic game you'd see being played on NBA TV as well.

 

That was just how the game worked back then, there's wasn't not anywhere near as much risk of a guy closing out on your legs on a perimeter jumper. Back then it was usually playing inside (therefore more physical), so not as much risk for perimeter shooters. The game didn't really become perimeter oriented until the late 80s/early 90s.






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