why does lebron and wade shoot over 50 percent..... its not like kobe never had the ability to do so....this will always be a knock on kobe bryant along with those two finals losses
it has a lot to do with who your teammates are too. LeBron is very physically imposing and 90 percent of his shots come from the post or inside the paint because of his ability to get to the basket.
When he's forced to shoot mid range shots he shoots 48%.
Different game as well.
Durant shooting over 50% is more impressive, BUT you saw how much that percentage dropped when the entire defense could focus on him the way defenses focus on Kobe. Durants field goal numbers dropped like a rocket.
You'd have to take that into account.
Another advantage LeBron has is consistent wing players.
Kobe's best teammate thus far has always been post players and until Nash, Kobe didn't really have a "consistent" wing player capable of giving 15 a night if needed.
Jordan was also able to play off ball a bit as well as iso while the triangle took advantage of the triangle and Jordan could go through 2 screens and get open on the block when the pg gets him the ball.
Kobe a majority of the time has to play iso and set up everyone and play the point guard, the shooting guard and the small forward at the same time.
One of LeBron's advantages is his wing players, he has Wade, he has Ray Allen even Battier etc.
Because of this, when defenses collapse on LeBron, much like Jordan he would pass it out to the perimeter for easier shots so he doesn't have to take as many forced shots.
But whereas with Kobe he IS the only real perimeter threat, aside from Nash, on his team. So he's looking to pass in the post or he's looking inside.
With Nash playing off ball that is going to change.
But if we look at Kobe in the beginning of the season, when we were losing but Kobe was still trying to initiate everything and play off ball some of the time, he was shooting 50% and scoring high.
That was the closest he'd get to being a role in plays similar to Jordan and he shot well over 50%.
The problem was this. His supporting cast and wing players weren't as strong or as consistent, so eventually Kobe had to force it against offenses right away.
Whereas Jordan could pass the ball for 3 quarters just to get everyone involved and then take over and get his in the 4th, Kobe doesn't have that luxury. Whenever he does though he usually shoots well over 50% and comes close to having a triple double most of those times.
Supporting cast has a lot to do with why or why Kobe won't have to force up shots.
For instance a lineup of
Nash, Kobe, Webster
Would give Kobe a lot of freedom to pass around the perimeter on collapsing defenses.
Nash. Kobe, Metta
Metta is NOT a perimeter shooter, he is an inside banger and a guy that wants to play in the post so teams intentionally leave him open for that reason, they DON'T want Metta in the post, and as long as Pau is starting 4 and Clark hasn't emerged then Metta is the starting 3, this is the disadvantage of our starting lineup if we wanted to go with a perimeter attack and free Kobe up in the same ways.
personnel and consistency has a lot to do with why Kobe forces up shots over zone and a majority of the time it's the only available option.
One thing Jordan's teammates always could do was move as a unit, they all moved, when Jordan had the ball they were constantly in movement trying to find openings and Jordan could find them.
Even if defenses tried to focus on Jordan his teammates were in constant movement, therefore when double teamed Jordan always found them.
That was what made the triangle a thing of beauty when they ran it through Jordan that way, cause while Jordan sized up, his teammates would run through, one or two screens to get somewhere and make defenses react, sometimes even opening up an entire side for Jordan to attack from.
Kobe never had that, and Kobe never had the triangle ran through him in the same way.
The triangle Phil ran with Kobe was a triangle that was post based not guard based and was entirely different.
The reason is because we never had a point guard that was capable of running it that way nor the perimeter players consistent enough to deliver in that way, and if we'd run it that way we'd be leaving Shaq out to dry, so Kobe was the one that sacrificed his shots to get Shaq better ones.
The other times we ran triangle through Kobe we had Kwame Brown and Smush parker...
When Pau got here we ran it as a two man game between Pau and Kobe.
Kobe has never had the team to run the triangle the way Jordan was able to. His numbers suffer because of lack of consistency on the perimeter.
When Kobe is able to wade in the weeds much like Jordan used to, then he is able to be extremely effective, shoots over 50% and has a high number of assists and gets his points somewhere in the third and 4th quarter and maybe a little at half time.
Kobe has stated many times that the more he gets to wade in the weeds the better things get because his teammates are constantly moving and getting one another involved or he can get them involved while facilitating to them, much like Jordan could.
The problem was, that only happened one out of every eight or nine games for Kobe. Whereas with Jordan it happened mostly nine out of ten.
Also, what Phil says about the "Kobe going a long way before being a leader like Jordan"
The main reason for that is this
Kobe came out of high school. Jordan went to college and had to be a leader there.
Jordan was thrust into the league at a starting position and had to lead his team from game one and was years into being a leader before Phil even got there.
Whereas Kobe had to ride the bench his first 2 years and when he finally got playing time..
Kobe wasn't thrust into the leadership role with Shaq there and wasn't asked to lead, he was asked to take a backseat to Shaq.
Kobe started to take the reigns on the leadership in his 2nd year with Shaq and they clashed because of it. Though Kobe still sacrificing his stats for Shaq's benefit for the team over the next 2 years should say something about his leadership as well.
After Shaq left was when Kobe had to really become a leader and mature as one through trial and error as it was his firsto pportunity and the first time in his entire career he had to deal with the comparitive to Jordan's Bulls teams when he first got into the league.
So that's really an unfair statement to Kobe to be honest.
Had Kobe gone to college, and thrust into the leadership role on the Lakers from game one, by the time Phil got there Kobe would have had years of maturing and leadership trial and error and it would probably be closer.