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#1 -Wade-

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 05:53 PM

As the title may suggest, what are your thoughts of today's physicality, in comparison to the "old school" or "old" era?

 

After watching this video

 

 

I was left contrasting the aggressiveness of the eras and trying to figure out possible factors. I was trying to dig up some statistics on how many technical fouls + flagrant fouls were called per year, but ESPN cuts off at 1999 -- the NBA, 2005.

 

Obviously, a lot more was allowed back in the older NBA era, but I was wondering what factors some of you thought played a role?


Edited by -Wade-, May 12, 2013 - 05:54 PM.

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:05 PM

It's soft as [expletive]. No questions asked. If Mohammad made a push like that in the 90's, he woulda been mauled by the opposing team.

 

There woulda been at least 3 ejections + suspension.

 

It has to do with players being able to shoot. I believe that since players are taking a lot more jumpshots then they did in the 90's physical defense is non-existent. Back then a lot of points were scored in the post off layups and inside moves... so defense was needed.


Edited by Jackson, May 12, 2013 - 06:12 PM.


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:11 PM

The modern NBA is very soft and it takes away from the game. The problem is that now the refs call flagrant fouls and eject players for things that were routine, tough plays in the 80's and 90's.



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:15 PM

Couple of rule changes affected things too, like the hanchecking. 



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:19 PM

Does anyone think any of this is subject to change after Stern's retirement, or can this be expected for years to come?


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:30 PM

These cats couldn't handle that 80's bball. The Bad Boy Pistons or the The Knicks... Them ol ponk a** Celtics... Charles Barkley aka the Hit Man.. That was the best era IMO.... This watered down blow in your ear whistle and get a foul is garbage... Like 30 to 50 free throws a game just slows it down.
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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:34 PM

Does anyone think any of this is subject to change after Stern's retirement, or can this be expected for years to come?

Won't change, it's undergone too massive of a transformation to go back to the way it was. Not to mention how soft society in general has become nowadays. This is happening to football as well.


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:36 PM

One of the reasons why the NBA just doesn't do it for me anymore.

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:45 PM

Extremely soft. As the game has become more perimeter oriented, the physicality of players in the interior has been drastically reduced. No tone is set inside by the big men, nothing extends out on to the perimeter. In addition the NBA has let flopping become a staple by not doing anything about it in the last decade and, in some instances, encouraging it. Their most recent rule has been completely ineffective because they never want to fine or target their star players, just role players. Completely useless.

 

It's a damn shame, the NBA was much more compelling 15+ years ago. You can't let players go crazy and beat the hell out of eachother, but that doesn't mean that you have to curb physical play to such an extent. Honestly, it's probably because they were scared [expletive]less after the Detroit/Indiana incident of public backlash. The NBA was in a pretty delicate position at the time with the brawl, Kobe's rape trial, and was fading away from mainstream attention bit by bit after the Bulls dynasty had wrapped up.



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 06:54 PM

2 factors I can think of are Stars are divas nowadays and can't handle fouls and Ron beating the [expletive] out of fans lol



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 07:43 PM

Tissue paper soft

Lebron makes the whole NBA look bad with his flopping
His reaction to nazi mouhamad little push was embarrassing...

In fact, the whole heat team makes me ashamed to be a NBA fan

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 11:14 PM

It's soft because the league has changed rules to make it so.



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 11:22 PM

Really soft, but that doesn't mean the defense before was better



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 11:36 PM

Extremely soft. As the game has become more perimeter oriented, the physicality of players in the interior has been drastically reduced. No tone is set inside by the big men, nothing extends out on to the perimeter. In addition the NBA has let flopping become a staple by not doing anything about it in the last decade and, in some instances, encouraging it. Their most recent rule has been completely ineffective because they never want to fine or target their star players, just role players. Completely useless.

 

It's a damn shame, the NBA was much more compelling 15+ years ago. You can't let players go crazy and beat the hell out of eachother, but that doesn't mean that you have to curb physical play to such an extent. Honestly, it's probably because they were scared [expletive]less after the Detroit/Indiana incident of public backlash. The NBA was in a pretty delicate position at the time with the brawl, Kobe's rape trial, and was fading away from mainstream attention bit by bit after the Bulls dynasty had wrapped up.

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 11:50 PM

soft as [expletive] but i don't let it get in the way of me enjoying it



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Posted May 13, 2013 - 02:07 AM

It's become so soft it annoys me, the refs just hand out technical fouls like it's nothing these days.

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Posted May 13, 2013 - 02:09 AM

I enjoy the game to the fullest but part of me just wishes players like durant and Lebron would get a taste of what basketball
Was REALLY like instead of going to the foul line everytime someone blows on them lol.

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Posted May 13, 2013 - 02:56 AM

LeBron pushes John Lucas III

No technical or ejection.

Nazr Muhammad pushes LeBron.

gets ejected.


Favoritism and the "some teams can play as hard as they want but we'll blow the whistle on their opponents" mentality of the refs nowadays that goes unpunished is a lot to do with it.


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Posted May 13, 2013 - 09:59 AM

Lebron wants no part of 90's style trust me 

 

every time he would think about driving in the lane he would get cracked hard 

 

Kobe i think would play about the same in 90's style. Kobe although great 1on1 he struggles with players that Jordan would embarrass 

 

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Posted May 13, 2013 - 10:52 AM

Too bad the NBA doesn't care too much about the majority of their fan's opinions. If they did, perhaps we could band together and try to make a statement. Tell them what entertains us.

 

But that will never happen :laughing:


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