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Kobe is an "ok player", "volume shooter, not great shooter"


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#1 RobBlake

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:00 PM

Lol yeah he's ok. That's why he's in the same breath as Dave Cowens, Bob McAdoo and Dr. J when it comes to MVPs. Guy can't win a second one because outside from 1 season he's never been "the best" but you claim that all time, he is just that lol.

He's also not a great shooter, he's a volume shooter.

 

There's a website dedicated to the final 24 seconds of the game you should research.

Kobe is like 20th on the list lol. Again, he's a volume shooter, not a good shooter. He makes those shots because he takes them every single time not because he actually hits on them more times than not.

 

 

these are the comments i've been forced to read on a 49ers website lol. This guy is a huge lebron fan and hates kobe, calls him a rapist etc etc...

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:24 PM

well hard to argue when kobe shoots 45 percent overall   its 9/20  shots so...



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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:31 PM

Kobe is not some all time great shooter.  We all know that.  At times he can look like a volume shooter.  But what keeps him from being labeled as a volume shooter is his incredible basketball IQ and skillset.  



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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:41 PM

Nobody in NBA history as seen more defensive attention than Kobe other than Shaq. Try sticking zones on the players he thinks are good shooters, double them before they even get the ball (out on the 3pt line) and then let's see if they can even score 10 points. 

 

This video illustrates it well. 

 


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:58 PM

Kobe isn't a shooter like Ray Allen or Reggie miller, but his ability to create shots for himself and the defense he is able to score upon can only be compared to one player which is Michael Jordan.

 

The true definition of a volume shooter at its best is Carmelo Anthony...

Now that is a VOLUME SHOOTER.


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 01:07 PM

Huh, no wonder Kobe Bryant is 4th in all-time scoring.

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 01:43 PM

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 02:29 PM

Steve Nash is a more accurate "shooter" too steve Nash will get you 16 on 54 percent shooting, Kobe will get you 45 on 45 percent shooting. One made or missed field goal either way makes Kobe's field goal percentage in the mid 50s.

So many people try to make shooter and scorer the same so often it gives me headaches -_-

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 04:56 PM

Nobody in NBA history as seen more defensive attention than Kobe other than Shaq. Try sticking zones on the players he thinks are good shooters, double them before they even get the ball (out on the 3pt line) and then let's see if they can even score 10 points. 

 

This video illustrates it well. 

 

But even so we all know a lot of his jump shots are bad decisions, and too many 3pt attempts. funny thing is no one plays defense on lebron at all he gets to the basket all of the time 



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Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:01 PM

Kobe doesn't shoot. He gets buckets.


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:05 PM

It's easier to look like a bad shooter in the clutch when you're one of the very few willing to take any look at the end of a game


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 05:59 PM

But even so we all know a lot of his jump shots are bad decisions, and too many 3pt attempts. funny thing is no one plays defense on lebron at all he gets to the basket all of the time 

 

Who would you rather have shooting those shots? I'd rather Kobe take a contested 3 rather than Smush Parker or Kwame Brown, and any of the other scrub role players LA has had. 



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Posted May 06, 2013 - 03:48 AM

Nobody in NBA history as seen more defensive attention than Kobe other than Shaq. Try sticking zones on the players he thinks are good shooters, double them before they even get the ball (out on the 3pt line) and then let's see if they can even score 10 points. 

 

This video illustrates it well. 

 

No one but Kobe and Shaq have seen more defensive attention?  Um   .no.  Jordan used to get routinely double teamed BEFORE he ever got the ball.  Chuck Daily invented that defense and other teams used it as well.  

 

Sticking zones on good players that are shooters?  Huh?  I am not sure you understand the purpose of a zone defense.  You think a "good" zone defense (technically still illegal in the NBA and most teams dont play them well anyway) is gonna stop Steph Curry?  It actually plays into his hands.



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Posted May 06, 2013 - 05:22 AM

like i alway say Kobe is forced to be in more end game winner situations then any other player due to being cheated by the refs all throughout the 4 quarters. if he got the "love" Stern treatment like MJ, LBJ, Wade, & Durant his career avgs would be better in all categories. Kobe wins in spite of the cheating = this is far more greater of an accomplishment then winning due to being media darling & getting the game handed to you on silver platter.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 06:30 AM

No one but Kobe and Shaq have seen more defensive attention?  Um   .no.  Jordan used to get routinely double teamed BEFORE he ever got the ball.  Chuck Daily invented that defense and other teams used it as well.  

 

Sticking zones on good players that are shooters?  Huh?  I am not sure you understand the purpose of a zone defense.  You think a "good" zone defense (technically still illegal in the NBA and most teams dont play them well anyway) is gonna stop Steph Curry?  It actually plays into his hands.

Yes...Zones are supposed to stop the star players. 

 

Jordan never had to face a zone. Before you say it, zone> hand checking



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Posted May 06, 2013 - 06:56 AM

Haters goin hate

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Posted May 06, 2013 - 09:12 AM

When discussing Kobe and the word "rapist" comes into play from the other side of the argument, that's a sign to end the discussion immediately.  

 

That's called dealing with ignorance and 99.9% sure the discussion is not going anywhere.  



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Posted May 07, 2013 - 02:05 PM

Kobe isn't a shooter like Ray Allen or Reggie miller, but his ability to create shots for himself and the defense he is able to score upon can only be compared to one player which is Michael Jordan.

 

The true definition of a volume shooter at its best is Carmelo Anthony...

Now that is a VOLUME SHOOTER.

Nicely said. It will be a bad day in Los Angeles if Carmelo gets signed in 2014.



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Posted May 08, 2013 - 08:12 AM

not even going to bother, if you think kobe is just an OK player, you're in disagreement with basically everyone that knows anything about basketball who doesn't have some sort of agenda...

 

therefore you should not be listened to


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