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#41 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:43 AM

our 2nd unit could use nick youngs "chucking". the 2nd unit needs a go-to wing player


Nick Young is anything but "go to"

I been watching the Sixers all season.

Kobe would hospitalize the dude before the pre-season was over.

it ain't just the chucking, it's his decision making.


Edited by Majesty, May 05, 2013 - 11:44 AM.

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#42 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:48 AM

Nick Young also wants a lot of money to be signed he has stated as such and he believes he is worth more money than he is.

Webster can be had for 3 million and is the 5th best 3 point shooter in the league with a high offensive efficiency rating and is fifth best in the league(non big-man) in true shooting%.  

You don't waste time trying to get Young while Webster is out there and available for less money.

No one in their right mind thinks Nick Young would last here with his decision making anyway.   Kobe or Dwight will have hurt the guy for chucking a shot while double teamed rather than passing it to either of them.

Say what you will about Metta but he has shown to be dependable a heck of a lot more than Nick Young ever has.

So again, forget Young, go after Webster. 

If Webster is taken, still don't go after Young.


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:49 AM

Laker fans are dissing on Nick Young acting as if we have enough money to sign better pieces...


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:51 AM

rather have randy foye than webster. everyone thinks we need a SF - soooo ,nash is gunna guard all of the young athletic PGs of the league? that wont be good.

 

randy foye over webster cuz he can create much better. hes a better scorer. and he's also a good shooter.


Edited by iDreamShake, May 05, 2013 - 11:52 AM.

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#45 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:52 AM

Laker fans are dissing on Nick Young acting as if we have enough money to sign better pieces...


Nick Young fans acting as if he'd sign anywhere for the MLE when he has said he thinks he's worth a lot of money and wants a huge contract.

He ain't worth the kind of money he wants.  And we ain't paying him it to get him here.  And he isn't a player worth it either.

That's all there is to it.


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:52 AM

rather have randy foye than webster. everyone thinks we need a SF - soooo ,nash is gunna guard all of the young athletic PGs of the league? that wont be good.

 

randy foye over webster cuz he can create much better. hes a better scorer. and he's also a good shooter.

 

Yeah, Foye would be a dream for me.

Great competitor and can learn alot from Kobe and Nash.


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#47 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:54 AM

rather have randy foye than webster. everyone thinks we need a SF - soooo ,nash is gunna guard all of the young athletic PGs of the league? that wont be good.

 

randy foye over webster cuz he can create much better. hes a better scorer. and he's also a good shooter.


Who is Randy Foye gonna replace in the starting lineup?  Nash?

No.

and Blake is a fine defender for our bench.

We don't need a point guard.   Blake is fine.

We gonna put him at the 2? 

Jodie Meeks is already 6'4 and we see how that went.

Our weaknesses are bench 2 and 3, which Webster takes care of.

We don't need to change the bench 1 and no one is replacing Nash as our starting 1, and if that kind of a point guard was available we're not getting them for the vets min or the MLE(unless Mitch worked his magic on chris paul and used the jedi mind trick of a 2014 max contract to entice him for one year) which 99.9 percent won't happen.


Gotta think realistically.


Edited by Majesty, May 05, 2013 - 11:55 AM.

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:55 AM

i think we can get Foye for our 3 mil MMLE, really do.! :woot:


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#49 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:57 AM

i think we can get Foye for our 3 mil MMLE, really do.! :woot:



So you're wasting it to get a 3rd point guard who isn't gonna get playtime over Nash or Blake and is undersized to play the 2 instead of a 6 foot 7 2/3 athletic tweener who can get his own shot and is the top 5 3 point shooting and top 5 true shooting% shooter in the league?


geez -_-


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 11:58 AM


Who is Randy Foye gonna replace in the starting lineup?  Nash?

No.

and Blake is a fine defender for our bench.

We don't need a point guard.   Blake is fine.

Our weaknesses are bench 2 and 3, which Webster takes care of.

We don't need to change the bench 1 and no one is replacing Nash as our starting 1, and if that kind of a point guard was available we're not getting them for the vets min or the MLE(unless Mitch worked his magic on chris paul and used the jedi mind trick of a 2014 max contract to entice him for one year) which 99.9 percent won't happen.


Gotta think realistically.

 

realistically; nash cant guard the young PGs of the league. randy foye started at SG for the Clippers all last year; i know that much. he's 6'4; same height as Jodie Meeks; a SG.

 

obviously Foye would be our starting SG; and defend the best guard on the other team

 

of course Nash is gunna start at PG; whoever thinks he wont is nuts.

also, kobe might be a SF when he comes back. especially since he's not expected to be 100% until about a year after surgery.


Edited by iDreamShake, May 05, 2013 - 12:00 PM.

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#51 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:00 PM

realistically; nash cant guard the young PGs of the league. randy foye started at SG for the Clippers all last year; i know that much. he's 6'4; same height as Jodie Meeks; a SG.

 

obviously Foye would be our starting SG; and defend the best guard on the other team

 

of course Nash is gunna start at PG; whoever thinks he wont is nuts.

also, kobe might be a SF when he comes back. especially since he's not expected to be 100% until about a year after surgery.



Again, so you'd waste the MLE to get a 3rd point guard who isn't gonna get playtime over Nash or Blake and is undersized to play the 2 instead of a 6 foot 7 2/3 athletic tweener who can get his own shot and is the top 5 3 point shooting and top 5 true shooting% shooter in the league? 

again.. geez


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 12:02 PM



Again, so you'd waste the MLE to get a 3rd point guard who isn't gonna get playtime over Nash or Blake and is undersized to play the 2 instead of a 6 foot 7 2/3 athletic tweener who can get his own shot and is the top 5 3 point shooting and top 5 true shooting% shooter in the league? 

again.. geez

 

get off websters nuts! randy foye starting at 2> webster starting at 3. by far.

 

foye could play in both units. webster wouldnt really help the 2nd unit. we need a go-to creator for the 2nd unit; webster aint close to that


Edited by iDreamShake, May 05, 2013 - 12:03 PM.

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 01:15 PM

Why do the Lakers hate CDR so much?>!?!



#54 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 02:23 PM

get off websters nuts! randy foye starting at 2> webster starting at 3. by far.

foye could play in both units. webster wouldnt really help the 2nd unit. we need a go-to creator for the 2nd unit; webster aint close to that



Lol how much Webster have you actually watched? Foye at 2 is better than Webster at the 2 and the 3? Now I know you're crazy. And you don't think webster would help the second unit? Lol wow...

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 02:30 PM

get off websters nuts! randy foye starting at 2> webster starting at 3. by far.

 

foye could play in both units. webster wouldnt really help the 2nd unit. we need a go-to creator for the 2nd unit; webster aint close to that

foye is inconsistent and plays no defense.


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Posted May 05, 2013 - 03:28 PM

Majesty is right.

Lets assume we retain everyone.

I think Meeks as a shooter and Blake can back-up but Clark is not a wing player so even at the 3 , it's a stretch.

Webster isn't worth 3 to me, but he can hit shots of ball and guard 2/3s, plus run the wing with Clark and Blake as PG.

#57 Majesty

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Posted May 05, 2013 - 03:42 PM

Majesty is right.

Lets assume we retain everyone.

I think Meeks as a shooter and Blake can back-up but Clark is not a wing player so even at the 3 , it's a stretch.

Webster isn't worth 3 to me, but he can hit shots of ball and guard 2/3s, plus run the wing with Clark and Blake as PG.


Not only that but he can bring Kobe's minutes down.  He's a consistent three point shooter , can get his own shot and he at least tries on defense while being athletic, he's the kind of guy that can mesh with both Blake and Nash and he has more to his game than Meeks does as well. 

So even if you ran a 1,2,3 bench lineup of Blake, Meeks, Webster, if you have Clark and Hill at the 4,5 or even Gasol at the 5 Hill at the 4 or vice versa etc you have a lineup that has enough athleticism and scoring to give a different perspective AND score enough to keep Kobe on the bench for an extended period of time.

Basically put if Martell is hitting(and he's 5th in the league in 3 point shooting) then Kobe can afford to rest.   And he won't be abused defensively the same way Meeks would, it adds size athleticism and the ability to stretch the floor to our bench unit which IF you are running Dwight at the 5 with the bench unit, you can run through him a lot more because defenders can't collapse.

If they collapse they are leaving Blake, Meeks, Webster(Blake was 11th in the league in 3 point shooting, Webster is 5th) open for three, or they are leaving Clark open if he's out there, or you can have Hill there with Dwight to go after rebounds.

It gives our bench unit the ability to rebound AND stretch the floor while also being young and athletic(Blake would be the oldest one, and he'd be orchestrating it and making few mistakes)  so honestly like I said, we can keep our core, you add Webster to that bench.  A lot of good and versatility will come from it and again, it SHOULD cut down Kobe's minutes.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 05:17 AM

just for the record....were like 7-10 "Pieces" away. I dont know what team ya'll are arguing about when you say we need to make 1 acquisition to fix our woes.

 

Pieces:

1. D12 is not a Laker atm, so we gotta sign him still.

2. KB24 is on his couch tweeting about playing, not playing atm. Its possible he doesnt play next year or even again. Regardless of his time table, we need minutes at SG. Switch Blake over some will say...ok...still need a back up pg to fill then. Cant rob Peter and not pay Paul. And Blakes going on 34. Its not like 30+ mins game/82 games is a good idea.

3. Ron...why is he here again?
4. Nash...."This is 40".

5. Earl Clark is a FA. Gotta sign him.

6. Goudlocke, Duhon, Meeks, Morris, Jamison, Sacre.....thats our current bench. So I'm lumping 6 pieces that is the entire bench into one giant piece.

7. Pau....what to do...what to do? Explore options and make a decision then. But at least explore the options.

8. Oh yeah...that other little thing we need to do...get a freakin head coach.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 02:35 PM

That one piece is the coach
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Posted May 06, 2013 - 03:01 PM

This is who the lakers need to sign, Martel Webster, DeShawn Stevenson (If Waived), Chris Copeland, and Alan Anderson. We would be filled with depth at every position without making any trades. 






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