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#241 Majesty

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:23 PM

my oh my... :cool2:


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:23 PM

Ginolbli lol



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:24 PM

Warriors need to not give up so many rebounds and Jack needs to not be a black hole.  Nice to see them finally using Harrison Barnes again :laughing:    Ginobli can't guard him.


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:25 PM

Looked like it was off curry

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:26 PM

Barnes was a huge contributor today - esp in crunch time



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:27 PM

They should give the ball to Manu - just to see another crazy shot



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:28 PM

Tony Parker(injured): 38 minutes
Manu Ginobli 35 minutes
Tim Duncan:  41 minutes


Your three oldest players. 

35+ minutes

I wonder, given their depth and their bench if anyone is gonna say Pop is running his oldest players to death.  

But of course the answer to that is, he HAS to play them that long to try to have a chance to win these games. 


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:30 PM

Tony Parker(injured): 38 minutes
Manu Ginobli 35 minutes
Tim Duncan:  41 minutes


Your three oldest players. 

35+ minutes

I wonder, given their depth and their bench if anyone is gonna say Pop is running his oldest players to death.  

 

It probably matters a little less in Playoffs when there are no back to backs. Sometimes they have 2 days off.

 

Unlike MDA - who really ran the Lakers to death by refusing to increase the rotation



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:32 PM

GSW needs to run the clock down as much as possible ... but they should take a good open shot if they get it.

 

Plenty of time remaining



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:33 PM

That was perfectly played by Curry .. and a big shot by Landry



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:33 PM

Thats game.  Series tied at 2-2.



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:34 PM

That's game. 

Series 2-2


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:37 PM

Hopefully Curry's ankle will get better ...  As also Parker's knee...



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:37 PM

It probably matters a little less in Playoffs when there are no back to backs. Sometimes they have 2 days off.

 

Unlike MDA - who really ran the Lakers to death by refusing to increase the rotation



Agreed.

Still, you can see how the extended minutes is hurting his players and given their depth that does say something about the rest of their team doesn't it?

But like I said at the start of this series.  Pop wasn't gonna be able to rest his guys like he did against a depleted us and the wheels are gonna run off them eventually.

Everyone talked about Golden State's youth like it was a bad thing.  It isn't, cause THEY can play heavy minutes with their youth.    Pop can't afford to play Parker, Duncan and Ginobli just to stay with them given all the pieces they have.   But he has to or they won't have a chance.  

So that's pretty much the case, no matter how deep their team is or how great their coaching is their main guys are gonna HAVE to play heavy minutes to have a chance against this team.    It's just a matter of when the sand runs out of the hour glass.


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:41 PM

Tony Parker(injured): 38 minutes
Manu Ginobli 35 minutes
Tim Duncan:  41 minutes


Your three oldest players. 

35+ minutes

I wonder, given their depth and their bench if anyone is gonna say Pop is running his oldest players to death.  

But of course the answer to that is, he HAS to play them that long to try to have a chance to win these games. 

Wtf......they're in the playoffs. Completely different.


Edited by LakeShow805, May 12, 2013 - 02:41 PM.


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 02:44 PM

Wtf......they're in the playoffs. Completely different.

 

 

 

You're right, but the problem is, those minutes will catch up to those older players regardless.  

The Spurs aren't a young team, and it isn't like the season.

Where they can play heavy minutes one night against a running team, and then maybe a game later play heavy minutes against a half court slow paced team.

It's more like playing heavy minutes against a young running team, taking one or two days off(and NOT practicing to save your legs) and then having to go play heavy minutes AGAIN against a young running team every day or two.


It may be the playoffs but those minutes will catch up to them regardless, and because they have to contend with that style each and every time and NOT be able to practice because their legs are so gone it still isn't going to end well.  Playoffs or not.

Does Tony Parker look "fresh" to you just because it's the playoffs?   Those minutes are hitting him hard, it's tellable.   Whether or not he has one or two days off between 38 minute performances, its hurting him regardless.  

It may be the playoffs where you have a day off or perhaps two.  But constant 38 minute performances against the same style that;s gonna run you all game and not getting that 'change of pace' you can get during the season where two games and teams are completely different and much more urgent.  And it will catch up to you.  It's like playing the Thunder running you out the gym, having a day off and then playing the thunder again. 

Whereas in a back to back in the season you can play the thunder one night, the pacers the next night.    Get what I mean?

Wheels are gonna fall off eventually, just like last year for the Spurs, Just a matter of when.


Edited by Majesty, May 12, 2013 - 02:48 PM.

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 03:17 PM

1. Parker isn't that old. He turns 31 in a few days. Lower 30s are much different than mid 30s in terms of basketball age.

 

2. These games have had 3 total OT periods. OTs will inflate minutes.

 

3. The playoffs are different and have more rest in between games.

 

4. It's still not 48 minutes like D'Antoni did with Kobe before he got injured.


Edited by Japago, May 12, 2013 - 03:23 PM.

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Posted May 12, 2013 - 03:24 PM

When Green and Leonard lose confidence in their shot, the Spurs are in trouble. Same [expletive] happened last year against OKC.



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Posted May 12, 2013 - 03:35 PM

If the role players step up more like they usually do at home, then I think SA will still win. They still have home court advantage. I think they learned how to defend Curry and Thompson better in game 3, but they were already on the road then. I think they'll defend like that the rest of the way.


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Posted May 12, 2013 - 04:09 PM

If the role players step up more like they usually do at home, then I think SA will still win. They still have home court advantage. I think they learned how to defend Curry and Thompson better in game 3, but they were already on the road then. I think they'll defend like that the rest of the way.


The role players haven't stepped up that much most of this series.  Which is why Parker, Duncan and Ginobli have to play extended minutes.

And fyi for those saying "it's the playoffs you get more rest, it's different"


Here's a look at this series so far.

Game 1: Monday
Game 2: Wednesday
Game 3: Friday
Game 4: Sunday
Game 5: Tuesday
Game 6: Thursday
Game 7: Sunday


The only time there's gonna be a 2 day period is if there is a game seven.


But for the last 5 games it's only been 24 hours of rest, which is very similar to the season grind.  The only difference is there's no back to backs.  But it ain't "as much rest" as people think for this series.  Especially in the second round. 


Edited by Majesty, May 12, 2013 - 04:11 PM.

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