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#41 Holden_Magroin



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Posted May 01, 2013 - 10:47 PM

The reason we aren't trading Gasol is getting equal value, and remaining cap free for 2014. Lets say we sign 3 players but they roll over the 2014 free agency period, our flexibility goes right down the toilet. I rather us have Nash and Dwight only and sign an allstar or two in 2014 than get 3 marginal players right now for gasol. 

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Posted May 01, 2013 - 10:47 PM

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Posted May 01, 2013 - 11:14 PM

If it means getting rid of Duhon, Ebanks and MWP, go for it.


Pau will be a highly regarded commodity this offseason...more for the humongous savings his contract represents than his skills.



And if the Lakers don't fire MDA, expect Pau to request out to a team where he can earn an extension or healthy new contract...


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Posted May 02, 2013 - 01:14 AM

Martell Webster
Fifth in the NBA in 3 Point Shooting
Fifth among all non-big men in true shooting percentage

115 Offensive rating (Top 10 in the league)

So no he isn't.

If you have a chance to get him do it!


if he can create his shot better than im imagining; id love to have him. i really havnt seen him play. i just see him as another jodie meeks..

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 01:41 AM

if he can create his shot better than im imagining; id love to have him. i really havnt seen him play. i just see him as another jodie meeks..

yes he can create his own shot.



he's also a good off the dribble shooter

But he can be used off screens for open shots too

he also broke the Wizards record of games in a row with 5 consecutive three pointers(that's breaking Gilbert Arenas' record)

And yes you COULD use him as a primary three point shooter such as this game

But he's fifth in the league in three point shooting so he's MUCH more reliable than Meeks ;)

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 02:06 AM

I think unless we get a offer they can't refuse with someone or ones whos contract goes past 2014 then they trade Pau for other expirings like Williams and Kirilenko at Minny or Granger or Deng or Monta or Iggy if they dont opt out. Not saying these trades would happen but just giving examples of players that could help now. That
still gives them the flexibility for the 2014 free agency and helps us out currerntly. I think the main reason you trade Pau is to get us some more picks for now and the future. However the FO may just keep Pau as they feel they only
want to make minor moves this off season and save the big ones for next year. I believe you should be pro active every off season and look to improve every year if you can. The key could be what Dwight wants. If he wants a stretch 4 then Gasol maybe gone. If he wants Pau then he may stay. Obviously MDA may have a say if he is still coach too. Gotta say I'm looking forward to this upcoming free agency. Could be interesting or it could be quiet? CANT WAIT :D

Edited by jax24, May 02, 2013 - 02:12 AM.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 04:11 AM

The reason we aren't trading Gasol is getting equal value

What do you consider equal value for a player who can't defend, who's not assertive offensively, who bows out of playoff series?

Pau Gasol is GONE

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 06:13 AM

If we get the right pieces, yes. When I mean by right pieces, a Defensive PG, a Shooter, and maybe an athletic wing/big man. I doubt we can get all three, but you never know with Mitch.


If not, then Keep him, Kobe loves Pau, and there has to be a reason why he does.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 07:01 AM

As much as it pains me to say, the Lakers should keep him if the only trades available add on too much salary after next season. It'll be hard to compete next season, and it's not worth adding on that much salary for that.


Just talking about him as a player, trade at will. He's not going to be good next year. We saw far more bad than good this season from him. I'll keep it at that. I've been on too many Pau rants as of late.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 07:15 AM

It all depends on the return. You got to get a package back that will make you feel ok about giving up a huge expiring contract for 2014. If we get a bunch of semi-decent players that are locked into 2-3 year deals what's the point? Might as well let his contract finish out and get that cap space for the next off-season.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 07:49 AM

I think we should keep Pau and let that contract run out. I think the return as mentioned would not be good at all and just as was said we would probably have to eat a longer contract in there. This team needs to give it one final go before totally blowing it up.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 08:38 AM

If MDA is still the coach then we have no choice but to trade Pau even if its not better. Because MDA is such a bad coach he doesn't know how to be successfull with the roster that is givin to him. Most decent coach knows how to bend their system to fit the roster but MDA suck hard donkey balls giving a hall of famer PF/C like a Pau Gasol will only confused him. 

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 09:05 AM

if any1 including Kobe still want to keep Pau around = they are living in the past & have blinders on.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 09:47 AM

That being said, I think the Lakers can get something that allows them to still have that cap space. He showed enough at the end of the regular season and it seems like his reputation is good enough for him to still have value. People who cover the NBA still think he's a good player. The opinions of NBA GMs can't be that different.

Edited by Japago, May 02, 2013 - 09:54 AM.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 01:18 PM

The only way I think we should trade him is if we get players back that would be no brainers to sign in 2014 on the same contract they have now. Otherwise you're screwing up the cap situation for no reason and taking on players that you wouldn't sign if given the opportunity.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 03:56 PM

why are you so high on webster!

hes no better or more affordable than any of these Free Agents -

PGs -will bynum, nate rob, R.Beaubois, Augustin, Udrih, Patty Mills, Brian Roberts, Mo Williams(made alot of $ last year; could take little $), Mike James, Aaron Brooks, Calderon(same as Williams)

SG/SF - Ellington, Foye, N. Young


in fact, i think all of the players above are better than Webster.



on topic tho - if trading pau means taking on contracts past 2014 - im not sure if we should do that and mess up our chance at landing a big name FA. idk..


Patty mills on this team would bse sexy

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 03:56 PM

Nick Young is a chucker. Would not want him on the team.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 04:41 PM

I'd much rather get rid of Nash...

I think Pau can still help this team. But I understand that he is overpaid and one of the only ways the Lakers can get a few young assets is by trading him. It's a tough call.

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 05:36 PM

I love Pau Gasol but I think he needs to go, his talent are almost gone already, he's not monster in the post right now like he used to be, yeah his talent at passing is still good as before but his heart as a champion is gone already but my problem is there is no decent player for pau gasol to trade with.

I don't like kevin love cause this guy becoming injury prone and he's bad at defensive ends maybe with lamarcus aldridge + creeps or faried + creeps.


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Posted May 02, 2013 - 06:05 PM

Don't expect Pau to be traded this offseason...much better offers will come for him around February of next year and if the Lakers are lucky enough to keep Dwight, they will NOT be under the gun to make a move before then...



And even if they keep him and let him expire, that's 2 huge contracts dropping off the books next summer -  Kobe and Pau...so that's better than taking bad contracts...and they can choose from a larger pool AND draft picks...



Don't expect any big things...unless keeping Dwight requires moving Pau...


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