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#7021 Japago

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Posted August 04, 2013 - 03:42 AM

Lol, I don't think CP3 needed Dwight to go to Houston to want to go there. Without the right changes, Houston would've easily been a better place than the Clippers even without Dwight. I doubt CP3 and Dwight seriously thought Houston would be able to team them up. Houston needed to get rid of players just to make room for one max contract. Dwight asked Houston about adding another max contract, but I think players basically know a team's situation. He probably asked knowing they wouldn't be able to do it.

 

My stance hasn't changed: Dwight may have left anyway even if the Lakers did everything right, but the Lakers still made it really easy for him to do so. So, I can't completely blame Dwight because of that.


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Posted August 04, 2013 - 06:52 PM

Lol, I don't think CP3 needed Dwight to go to Houston to want to go there. Without the right changes, Houston would've easily been a better place than the Clippers even without Dwight. I doubt CP3 and Dwight seriously thought Houston would be able to team them up. Houston needed to get rid of players just to make room for one max contract. Dwight asked Houston about adding another max contract, but I think players basically know a team's situation. He probably asked knowing they wouldn't be able to do it.

 

My stance hasn't changed: Dwight may have left anyway even if the Lakers did everything right, but the Lakers still made it really easy for him to do so. So, I can't completely blame Dwight because of that.



Funny thing is if you look at our team now we're deeper than the Rockets and are a better team to sign to :laughing:

But Dwight didn't trust our front office to make good off-season moves.  His biggest mistake.

We also got a defensive coordinator in Kurt Rambis notorious for working well with bigs.


In Houston they are fine tuning evereything and the coaching staff around Dwight but none on defense.   They are bringing in people on the staff that can work with Dwight on his post game and hiring them, but they haven't added anything new to  the staff to help them with defense.

They are counting on Dwight to make up for all the mistakes they made last year on the defensive end. 

Forgetting that 71% of the shots they gave up, got scored on and became the worst defensive team in the league over last year...were jump shots, not getting destroyed in the paint.


uh.. whoops...


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Posted August 04, 2013 - 07:35 PM



Funny thing is if you look at our team now we're deeper than the Rockets and are a better team to sign to :laughing:

But Dwight didn't trust our front office to make good off-season moves.  His biggest mistake.

We also got a defensive coordinator in Kurt Rambis notorious for working well with bigs.


In Houston they are fine tuning evereything and the coaching staff around Dwight but none on defense.   They are bringing in people on the staff that can work with Dwight on his post game and hiring them, but they haven't added anything new to  the staff to help them with defense.

They are counting on Dwight to make up for all the mistakes they made last year on the defensive end. 

Forgetting that 71% of the shots they gave up, got scored on and became the worst defensive team in the league over last year...were jump shots, not getting destroyed in the paint.


uh.. whoops...

 

You put a lot of faith in Kobe coming back of an Achilles injury, a worn down Pau Gasol and Steve Nash, and a bunch of role players. Houston isn't perfect and I don't think they're one of the front runners for the championship, but they're still easily better than the Lakers. They have better players and a better head coach. They're not deep, but Howard, Harden, and Parsons is a very good core. They're also very young, so they shouldn't have the same problems the Lakers had staying healthy.

 

People put too much stock in Rambis improving the defense. The Timberwolves were among the worst teams in the NBA on defense the 2 years he coached them, and the Lakers didn't drop off on defense at all when he left in 2009.

 

If everything goes right, maybe the Lakers sneak into the playoffs. That would be a terrible season for the Rockets.

 

They Lakers may have done a good job getting role players this offseason, but the major moves the Lakers made/didn't make were still big mistakes that set them back. They kept Pau for too long, traded for Steve Nash, and hired Mike D'Antoni. Houston is set beyond when Dwight's new contract expires. The Lakers have plenty of questions even right now.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 09:53 AM



Funny thing is if you look at our team now we're deeper than the Rockets and are a better team to sign to :laughing:

But Dwight didn't trust our front office to make good off-season moves.  His biggest mistake.

We also got a defensive coordinator in Kurt Rambis notorious for working well with bigs.


In Houston they are fine tuning evereything and the coaching staff around Dwight but none on defense.   They are bringing in people on the staff that can work with Dwight on his post game and hiring them, but they haven't added anything new to  the staff to help them with defense.

They are counting on Dwight to make up for all the mistakes they made last year on the defensive end. 

Forgetting that 71% of the shots they gave up, got scored on and became the worst defensive team in the league over last year...were jump shots, not getting destroyed in the paint.


uh.. whoops...

We may be "deeper" but they don't need much depth when there core is young with Parsons, Harden, and Dwight. Those guys can play a good amount of minutes because they are still young unlike the core we have. And Rockets are now the better team.



#7025 Majesty

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Posted August 05, 2013 - 04:29 PM

We may be "deeper" but they don't need much depth when there core is young with Parsons, Harden, and Dwight. Those guys can play a good amount of minutes because they are still young unlike the core we have. And Rockets are now the better team.


A core of Parsons Harden and Dwight goes nowhere in the west with absolutely no bench. There's already about 5 teams better than them in the west alone.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 04:46 PM

That [expletive] is getting old. A. Brooks, F. Garcia, O. Asik, T. Jones, D. Motiejunas, M. Camby, P. Beverley. All productive players.


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#7027 Majesty

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Posted August 05, 2013 - 05:41 PM

That [expletive] is getting old. A. Brooks, F. Garcia, O. Asik, T. Jones, D. Motiejunas, M. Camby, P. Beverley. All productive players.


Delfino was more important than all of them.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 05:50 PM

Nah not really they can def find a replacement for him.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 05:53 PM

lets let the season and players speak for themselves. I hope they miss the playoffs.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 07:12 PM

People still talking about this [expletive]???


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 07:33 PM

^ Incoming cliche: It's the offseason.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 07:45 PM


A core of Parsons Harden and Dwight goes nowhere in the west with absolutely no bench. There's already about 5 teams better than them in the west alone.

Too early to tell.



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Posted August 05, 2013 - 09:06 PM

^ Incoming cliche: It's the offseason.

lol what else we gonna talk about?


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Posted August 06, 2013 - 05:35 PM

Pretty much all of them are better than the Lakers bench outside of maybe Hill but thats debatable.  Farmar? Hill? Sacre? Blake? WTF!  How are we a deep team? Because we have guys on a roster that couldnt cut it elsewhere?  Did you see Kaman with the Mavs?  Watch Nick Young his whole career basically?  What has Wes Johnson ever done?

That [expletive] is getting old. A. Brooks, F. Garcia, O. Asik, T. Jones, D. Motiejunas, M. Camby, P. Beverley. All productive players.


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Posted August 06, 2013 - 06:25 PM

Some of u need to wipe ur lips u guys sound like rocket fans

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Posted August 06, 2013 - 06:26 PM

Some of u need to wipe ur lips u guys sound like rocket fans

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Posted August 06, 2013 - 06:37 PM

That [expletive] is getting old. A. Brooks, F. Garcia, O. Asik, T. Jones, D. Motiejunas, M. Camby, P. Beverley. All productive players.

Pretty much all of them are better than the Lakers bench outside of maybe Hill but thats debatable.  Farmar? Hill? Sacre? Blake? WTF!  How are we a deep team? Because we have guys on a roster that couldnt cut it elsewhere?  Did you see Kaman with the Mavs?  Watch Nick Young his whole career basically?  What has Wes Johnson ever done?

 

Really?  let's look at last year or last year in NBA

Point Guard

Patrick Beverly(HOU)
41% shooter 37% from 3
5.6 ppg

Steve Blake(LAL)
42% shooter 41% from 3
7.3 ppg


Aaron Brooks(HOU)
45% shooter 37% from three
7.1 ppg

Jordan Farmar(LAL)
last season in NBA
46% shooter 44% from 3
10.4 ppg




Shooting Guard

Reggie Williams(HOU)
43% shooter 30% from 3
3.7 ppg

Nick Young(LAL)
41% shooter 35% from 3
10.6 ppg


Small Forward(HOU)

Omri Caspi
39% shooter 31% from 3
4.0 ppg

(Finished Season scoring 0.5 ppg in March and 5.9 ppg in April)


Wesley Johnson(LAL)
40% shooter 32% from 3
8.0 ppg

(Finished Season scoring 13 ppg in March and 12 ppg in April)



Francisco Garcia(HOU) 
39% shooter 37% from three
5.5 ppg

(Finished Season scoring 5 in March and 7 in April)


Power Forward


Terrance Jones(HOU)
45% shooter
5.5 ppg 3.4 rebounds

Jordan Hill(LAL)
49% shooter (50% from mid range)
6.7 ppg 5.7 rebounds



Center
Donatas Montiejunas(HOU)
45% shooter
5.7 ppg 2.1 rebounds

Chris Kaman
50% shooter
10.5 ppg 5.6 rebounds



I'm not even gonna go into the hilarious inclination that Marcus Camby is still productive when he shot a wonderful 32% last year at 1.8 points per game and couldn't go 25 games before getting injured.  Guy is done.  


Our bench isn't even done being filled yet and we look just fine in comparison to the Rockets and outdo them at several of those positions of "productive" players.  

Like I told ya'll before, Delfino's importance trumped ALL of them and he was the guy that made the 2nd most threes on that team.

Looking at that lineup of "producers" you listed, it seems like without him(Delfino) we trump them at 4 of those 5 spots apparently.
So much for "they all are better than the Lakers bench except Hill".   

Go on your second account to agree with yourself though if you can't counter that.

Till then you're proven wrong again.    

You can keep overrating how much of a difference maker Marcus Camby is gonna be though.   I hope you realize you're the only one that thinks that.

 


 


Edited by Majesty, August 06, 2013 - 06:40 PM.

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Posted August 06, 2013 - 07:27 PM

Well since Johnson and Hill doesn't really count because they might be starters. But even if they weren't Rockets still have productive players at those positions. Damn sure would take Aaron Brooks over Blake and Farmar, who is way more productive and successful throughout his career than both players. Funny how u choose D-Mo instead of Asik who will.. be Dwight's backup. Is it because of his stats is better than Kaman? 54 FG% 10.1 PPG  11.7 RPG. Trumps him in defense and trumps him at protecting the rim. They don't really need Camby he's just there in case Asik or Howard gets hurt or if Dwight/Asik needs to come out for a quick rest. The only position that we really beat them in is shooting guard and the only reason because they dont really have one. But it really doesnt matter because their getting production no matter what. You're acting like Rockets can't go and get someone else who can shoot threes because that is all what Delfino did. They still got Garcia who shoot threes, so Delfino wasn't important at all because if he was they would had kept him. Hell, neither team has a good bench but I'm not going to sit here and say they don't have a bench at all. Parsons Harden, and Dwight can def play 30+ plus so they just need productive players to give them 20 minutes, and they dont have to be great either. Even with our back to back championship run we didn't have great backups LO was the only one who was great and everyone else is was just productive. Same with Heat.


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Posted August 06, 2013 - 08:01 PM

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Posted August 06, 2013 - 08:04 PM

Well since Johnson and Hill doesn't really count because they might be starters. But even if they weren't Rockets still have productive players at those positions. Damn sure would take Aaron Brooks over Blake and Farmar, who is way more productive and successful throughout his career than both players. Funny how u choose D-Mo instead of Asik who will.. be Dwight's backup. Is it because of his stats is better than Kaman? 54 FG% 10.1 PPG  11.7 RPG. Trumps him in defense and trumps him at protecting the rim. They don't really need Camby he's just there in case Asik or Howard gets hurt or if Dwight/Asik needs to come out for a quick rest. The only position that we really beat them in is shooting guard and the only reason because they dont really have one. But it really doesnt matter because their getting production no matter what. You're acting like Rockets can't go and get someone else who can shoot threes because that is all what Delfino did. They still got Garcia who shoot threes, so Delfino wasn't important at all because if he was they would had kept him. Hell, neither team has a good bench but I'm not going to sit here and say the don't have a bench at all. Parsons Harden, and Dwight can def play 30+ plus so they just need productive players to give them 20 minutes, and they dont have to be that good either. Even with our back to back championship run we didn't have great backups LO was the only one who was great and everyone else is was just productive. Same with Heat.


The Rockets actually have talked about STARTING Asik with Howard.   It's also apparently what Dwight would want.    Asik has openly stated that he doesn't want to back up Dwight nor does he even want to play with him and wants to be traded.

Montajunas is actually a guy with upside and would be an ideal backup for Dwight.   But I didn't expect you to take it like that at all.   If they make Asik a backup to Howard and bury Montajunas on the bench they are making a BIG  mistake.

Asik at the 4 would be laughable, if Dwight hated Pau at the 4 next to him, Asik will be his bane.


Edited by Majesty, August 06, 2013 - 08:05 PM.

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