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Poll: Meeks or Goudelock? (54 member(s) have cast votes)

Keep Meeks or Goudelock?

  1. Keep Meeks, Let Goudelock go (7 votes [12.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.96%

  2. Keep Goudelock, Let Meeks go, use MLE on someone(s) else (46 votes [85.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.19%

  3. Don't know (1 votes [1.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.85%

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#41 iDreamShake

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Posted April 30, 2013 - 02:39 AM


yeah, Goudelock being able to score off the screen and off the dribble not only helps Kobe or Nash or Blake but it helps Dwight too.



We can run these kinds of lineups with Goudelock

Nash/Goudelock
Blake/Goudelock
Goudelock/Kobe
Nash/Goudelock/Kobe
Blake/Goudelock/Kobe


These kinds of lineups where all 3 guys can go get their own shot while also being good shooters REALLY would open up the floor for Dwight and make life a lot easier for him.

 

yessir. players who can create their own shot make the game easier for everybody their playing O with.

even a good cutter like Jamison/Clark also really benifit. PLUS glock can shoot; we need players who can both shoot and create.

even the first unit needs another player who can create!,,creating offense from the wing was soley on kobes shoulders!


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#42 Majesty

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Posted April 30, 2013 - 05:27 AM

yessir. players who can create their own shot make the game easier for everybody their playing O with.

even a good cutter like Jamison/Clark also really benifit. PLUS glock can shoot; we need players who can both shoot and create.

even the first unit needs another player who can create!,,creating offense from the wing was soley on kobes shoulders!


Yes, we can really develop him into a combo guard we've wanted, may take next year but he's already in a good place right now.

Pairing him with Blake coming off our bench is devastating especially with the confidence Blake plays with.  Add Martell Webster to that group or even Earl Clark(who said he'd be willing to play a bench role, if it meant staying a Laker and was willing to try the 4 because he felt he could be faster than other ones)

Try this bench out

Blake
Goudelock
Webster
Clark
Hill

There's your three floor spacers all also capable of getting their own shot from 1 to 3 position.

And you have Clark and Hill both athletic, rebounders and defenders you don't have to run plays for. 

And you could bring Dwight in for either Clark or Hill and move the other to a different position. 

That's an athletic bench unit, and you got the veteran point guard in Blake running it.

And if anything happened, you could just bring in Dwight and sit the other depending on whose on and whose off.

Above all else, that's a unit that could keep Kobe on the bench.   And it's realistically a unit we could afford(save Mitch pulling a "willing to come off the bench Monta Ellis out of his hat"

But that's not going to happen :laughing:


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Posted April 30, 2013 - 07:34 AM

Neither get Korver


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Posted April 30, 2013 - 07:53 AM

Pick your poison I guess.


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Posted April 30, 2013 - 08:02 AM

Both...let them fight it out and see which comes out on top.  Competition breeds success and excellence.  And even if Goudelock is added, Meeks is still one of the best 3pt shooters in the NBA...definitely the best we can get without sending out something of value.

 

All wee need to do is get rid of MWP/Ebanks and find another locale for Pau while bringing in a starting 3 who can defend and shoot and we are right back in business.  IMHO, if we could keep both, trade for Devin Harris, Jeff Green and Brandon Bass, we'd be right there at the top next year...Green isn't a great shooter but he's a young strong player who has shown himself to be a good defender at 3/4.  Bass is an elite post defender, rebounder and mid range shooter who's activity on both ends of the court makes him hard to guard or prepare for (the opposing team, that is).

 

Don't really see why we should choose either.  If they move Duhon/Ebanks as expected, we have enough room for both.



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 09:16 AM

Of the two Goudelock but only if he stays in his lane and NEVER brings the ball up court. Kid flat out cannot dribble every time he was pressured in game 3 and 4 (Every Time) he got stripped or turned the ball over.... Even with that he is a better shooter than meeks and he can create his own shot. If he spends the summer working on his ballhandling and defense he may be a keeper. 



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 09:23 AM

He averaged 4.1 points on 4 shots game with us. 4 shots in 7 minutes...This was his rookie year

 

He averaged 9 points on 9 attempts in his brief stint this year

 

 

Meeks averaged 8 points on 7 shots in 21 minutes

 

 

7 shots in 21 minutes sounds like a guy that knows his role

 

Both are undersized defenders, but one hustles and brings more defensive value to your team.

 

 

I like Goudelock but again, if I had to choose

Kobe

Nash

Blake

Meeks

Morris

Goudelock



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 09:25 AM

BTW, Jodie Meeks has a history of being a better shooter than he is, burt then again he +



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 11:44 AM

I like the thought of Kobe & Glock attacking the rim. Dude has one of the nicest floaters out there. 


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Posted April 30, 2013 - 12:04 PM

I love this poll. I remember somebody saying Meeks was by far the better player simply because he's been in the actual league playing longer and ignoring evaluating their actual games overall. I won't mention the name.


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#51 Majesty

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Posted April 30, 2013 - 05:12 PM

He averaged 4.1 points on 4 shots game with us. 4 shots in 7 minutes...This was his rookie year

 

He averaged 9 points on 9 attempts in his brief stint this year

 

 

Meeks averaged 8 points on 7 shots in 21 minutes

 

 

7 shots in 21 minutes sounds like a guy that knows his role

 

Both are undersized defenders, but one hustles and brings more defensive value to your team.

 

 

I like Goudelock but again, if I had to choose

Kobe

Nash

Blake

Meeks

Morris

Goudelock


There's a difference between their stats though.

Meeks had the benefit of playing a majority of the time with Kobe or someone else on the court with him which set him up for shots. 

But there were 3-4 other guys that had priority to take shots before him.

Goudelock didn't get that kind of benefit and more often than not WAS the scoring option when he was out there because they were clogging Dwight and Pau so much in the lane so much he had to be.    So the statistics are skewed a bit in his 2nd stint.

I'd like to see how he would do now with someone like Kobe there with him, or Blake or Nash running the table.  Not Morris and Duhon.


Edited by Majesty, April 30, 2013 - 05:13 PM.

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#52 Cj2008nw

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Posted April 30, 2013 - 05:25 PM

They are both Trash how can anybody be a fan of Goudelock when he can't dribble, pass, or play defense?!?!?

he can shoot a three and a floater AND THAT'S IT... his game is so limited but everybody wants him here for some reason



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 05:58 PM

They are both Trash how can anybody be a fan of Goudelock when he can't dribble, pass, or play defense?!?!?

he can shoot a three and a floater AND THAT'S IT... his game is so limited but everybody wants him here for some reason

lol. he can dribble (took people off the dribble in his two stints), idk about passing but then again we want him to score not assist, you wouldn't get defense from meeks or goudelock so why are you complaining loool.

 

theres always better options, but can we afford these better options?


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Posted April 30, 2013 - 06:44 PM

lol. he can dribble (took people off the dribble in his two stints), idk about passing but then again we want him to score not assist, you wouldn't get defense from meeks or goudelock so why are you complaining loool.

 

theres always better options, but can we afford these better options?

I'm sure they will work something out... but these guys weren't the answer this season and won't be next season



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 07:03 PM

I'm sure they will work something out... but these guys weren't the answer this season and won't be next season

we really didnt give g-lock a chance this season lol so i don't exactly know how you deciphered that he wouldn't be an "answer" at all.

 

morris and meeks got there chance and they sucked.


Edited by Ham, April 30, 2013 - 07:03 PM.

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Posted April 30, 2013 - 07:48 PM

They are both Trash how can anybody be a fan of Goudelock when he can't dribble, pass, or play defense?!?!?

he can shoot a three and a floater AND THAT'S IT... his game is so limited but everybody wants him here for some reason

 

Goudelock plays 2 games this whole season and hes "trash" but Morris has been terrible all year and just "needs more time"?



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 08:17 PM

Goudelock plays 2 games this whole season and hes "trash" but Morris has been terrible all year and just "needs more time"?

He had all summer league and training camp to make impression on the coach and ultimately got cut and NO team in the NBA gave him a chance to play on their roster... despite winning D-League MVP... that doesn't cause a red flag for you?? and I see literally no change in his game from last year or this year... He's an undersized 2 guard that can't play defense, rebound, or do anything besides shoot... he's useless



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Posted April 30, 2013 - 08:20 PM

And yet we have another Joel Anthony (and Morris isn't really THAT good defensively) as a PG, which is fine.

 

Dude, just stop.  Morris and Goudelock...they are both incomplete players.  One is no better than the other.  It just so happens that Goudelock is more of a fit with this particular team, simply because he's more likely to space the floor.



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Posted May 03, 2013 - 09:08 AM

And yet we have another Joel Anthony (and Morris isn't really THAT good defensively) as a PG, which is fine.

 

Dude, just stop.  Morris and Goudelock...they are both incomplete players.  One is no better than the other.  It just so happens that Goudelock is more of a fit with this particular team, simply because he's more likely to space the floor.

The topic of the thread is Goudelock or Meeks... not Goudelock, Meeks, or Morris... Why are you bringing up a player that is not even supposed to being discussed that's off topic



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Posted May 03, 2013 - 09:23 AM

The topic of the thread is Goudelock or Meeks... not Goudelock, Meeks, or Morris... Why are you bringing up a player that is not even supposed to being discussed that's off topic

 

Because in past topics you have made it known that you hate Goudelock and always question why people prefer him over Morris. 






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