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#1 SuPeRmAoR

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Posted April 13, 2013 - 06:39 PM

No kobe got me thinking,

 

Nash

Meeks

Metta

Gasol

Dwight

 

Why dont we play through the pick and roll with nash/howard or gasol and then spot up metta in the corner and meeks on the wing like phoenix used too...

 

Meeks is more than capable of hitting the three in transition or off a spot up, metta we now he can hit it when hes spotting up, gasol has the jumper necessary for this offense, and finally Dwight is the most athletic center in the NBA why not let him play off the ball instead of having him post up and throw up left handed hooks that end up as bricks

 


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Posted April 13, 2013 - 06:41 PM

You can't run the seven second offense with this team.

 

We have to play lots of P&R and pound the ball inside.  If they can still continue to run the Nash to Gasol to Howard sequence that will go a long way.



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 06:49 PM

You can't run the seven second offense with this team.

 

We have to play lots of P&R and pound the ball inside.  If they can still continue to run the Nash to Gasol to Howard sequence that will go a long way.

 

Tell me why we cant? im not arguing im just curious as to your opinion, dont say "because we're old and slow" because were not were older and slower than most teams yes, but not completely than we cant run a halfcourt offensive set.

and i hate the 1 in 4 out thing he does, its terrible, not only do you not have anyone boxing out inside but dwight on the kickouts, but also it makes the defense not work as hard resulting in them getting to save their energy for transition which kills us as you can see by our opponents fast break points and points of TO


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Posted April 13, 2013 - 06:51 PM

If dwight/clarke/meeks/blake or glock(if we sign him)'/ nash are on the floor. 



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 06:52 PM

If dwight/clarke/meeks/blake or glock(if we sign him)'/ nash are on the floor. 

That actually would work


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Posted April 13, 2013 - 06:58 PM

Tell me why we cant? im not arguing im just curious as to your opinion, dont say "because we're old and slow" because were not were older and slower than most teams yes, but not completely than we cant run a halfcourt offensive set.

and i hate the 1 in 4 out thing he does, its terrible, not only do you not have anyone boxing out inside but dwight on the kickouts, but also it makes the defense not work as hard resulting in them getting to save their energy for transition which kills us as you can see by our opponents fast break points and points of TO

 

With this team, they are bad defensively as it is, running a faster tempo would result in teams running us to death.

 

Nash isn't capable of running that offense anymore either.

 

If this team was full of athletes, I'd say go for it. We can always attempt to do it with a lineup of Dwight, Clark, Meeks, Nash, and another guard or small forward, but it's still risky.

 

Seven second offense requires quick shots. This team needs to slow it down.  Any athletic team would love for us to play that offense.



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:07 PM

Won't work. This team is not young. We should play inside through dwight and pau



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:08 PM

man this isn't 24 hr fitness where a bunch people play and just run n gun all day lol! I want pau in the post where he's been effective since returning Dwight also



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:08 PM

With this team, they are bad defensively as it is, running a faster tempo would result in teams running us to death.

 

Nash isn't capable of running that offense anymore either.

 

If this team was full of athletes, I'd say go for it. We can always attempt to do it with a lineup of Dwight, Clark, Meeks, Nash, and another guard or small forward, but it's still risky.

 

Seven second offense requires quick shots. This team needs to slow it down.  Any athletic team would love for us to play that offense.

Im not saying go right ahead and implement the seven second rule, im saying run the same set


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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:15 PM

We don't have the legs, nor do we have the shooting accuracy. I think now with our best iso-er out, we have to exploit P&R, as WC said earlier, as much as we can, and play as big as damn possible. Hopefully the twin towers experiment can finally do some good things out there.


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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:30 PM

You'd best run double post and 4 out 1 in with some PnR here and there.

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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:40 PM

We only have two games left and were still trying to get into the playoffs. No time to try out anything new right now.

 

The Kobe P&R w/Pau ending with a Pau lob to Dwight for the dunk was something that was going to work wonders if we continued to work with it and expanding on it.

 

Now that Kobe is out, we need to some how try and run the same play with Nash. Nash has to shoot the ball well from here on out so defenders respect him. Once the defenders start respecting Nash then that opens up Pau and so on.



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 07:56 PM

Why would you run that offense and completely ignore your biggest weapons inside?

 

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Posted April 13, 2013 - 08:05 PM

No...



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 08:05 PM

Pau Gasol
Antawn Jamison
Ron Artest
Chris Duhon
(who may see time, who knows)

These guys aren't young enough, or fast enough, for the offense.

Dwight Howard

This guy...the lone superstar of our team, isn't fit for it (he doesn't spread the floor, and he needs to be in the post in a halfcourt offense).

Steve Nash

This guy can no longer run as much as he used to, especially now that he's not even able to play.  Nash's last season in Phoenix (last year) was pretty bad, and he even struggled to close out games because he was so tired, having to run and penetrate so much.
 

So the seven-second offense would benefit these guys...

 

Steve Blake

Jodie Meeks

Darius Morris

Earl Clark

 

And that's it.

 

In other words, a run-and-gun offense would eliminate our only chance of beating the big, strong teams in the NBA (ex. Spurs, Grizzlies), and it wouldn't be enough to keep up with the fastest teams in the league, no matter how quick we run (and ironically, some of the fastest teams in the NBA are in the West...the Nuggets, Rockets, Warriors, and Thunder).

 

We are better off running this offense through Dwight and Gasol, at this point, and hoping Nash can spot up and knock down 40+ percent from three, and 50% or better from mid-range.



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 08:09 PM

Pau Gasol
Antawn Jamison
Ron Artest
Chris Duhon
(who may see time, who knows)

These guys aren't young enough, or fast enough, for the offense.

Dwight Howard

This guy...the lone superstar of our team, isn't fit for it (he doesn't spread the floor, and he needs to be in the post in a halfcourt offense).

Steve Nash

This guy can no longer run as much as he used to, especially now that he's not even able to play. Nash's last season in Phoenix (last year) was pretty bad, and he even struggled to close out games because he was so tired, having to run and penetrate so much.

So the seven-second offense would benefit these guys...

Steve Blake
Jodie Meeks
Darius Morris
Earl Clark

And that's it.

In other words, a run-and-gun offense would eliminate our only chance of beating the big, strong teams in the NBA (ex. Spurs, Grizzlies), and it wouldn't be enough to keep up with the fastest teams in the league, no matter how quick we run (and ironically, some of the fastest teams in the NBA are in the West...the Nuggets, Rockets, Warriors, and Thunder).

We are better off running this offense through Dwight and Gasol, at this point, and hoping Nash can spot up and knock down 40+ percent from three, and 50% or better from mid-range.


Do you think we need 25 25 25 on average from Howard Nash and Gasol in that scenario and hope the rest of the guys can pick up the slack?

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Posted April 13, 2013 - 08:24 PM

This team would run the Triangle well...



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 08:24 PM

Without Kobe.



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 10:40 PM

Are you being serious?

 

We don't have hyper-athletes like Stoudemire and Marion, we don't have a Steve Nash capable of driving and kicking like he did 8 years ago, and we certainly don't have knockdown shooters. With this squad, that would be a failure of epic proportions. We aren't anywhere near as offensively gifted as those Phoenix teams either. Not even close.



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Posted April 13, 2013 - 10:51 PM

With the edition of Goudelock, our chances of running 4 out 1 in with Dwight just drastically increased.

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