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#221 stillshining

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 01:57 PM

Plus the return of Nash has had Gasol in the perimeter more instead of posting him, I don't know if D'antoni wanted to go back to his system or if they just couldn't post them but the halftime show talked clearly about what's hurting us



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Posted April 21, 2013 - 01:57 PM

^ Good point. Sorry, no likes to show for right now though.


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:03 PM

Since Kobe went out, Pau Gasol's FG% has nosedived into the toilet

Last 3 games 17/50...thats 34%

vs SAS 3 for 17
vs HOU 7 for 17
vs SAS today 7 for 16


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:05 PM

Pau defense was also crap.

 

 

Getting paid Superstar money, and keeps doing this. Guess his girlfriend broke up with him again. Need Phil to come slap him in the chest again.


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:05 PM

Since Kobe went out, Pau Gasol's FG% has nosedived into the toilet

Last 3 games 17/50...thats 34%

vs SAS 3 for 17
vs HOU 7 for 17
vs SAS today 7 for 16

Same thing that happened to Bynum basically. Kobe draws a ridiculous amount of defensive attention, he makes life so much easier for his teammates.

 

On another note, why does Nash's return prevent Gasol from being in the post? I would assume it's to free a driving lane for Nash, but seeing as he's injured, why go back to something that didn't work (having Gasol out). MDA's coaching acumen showing. You can't teach an old dog new tricks obviously. Itching to go back to his [expletive]stem.



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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:09 PM

Now where are those "Kobe shoots too much and doesn't pass enough" complainers at


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:11 PM

Pau looked like crap. Our bigs weren't drawing any fouls. Boring game.

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:28 PM

Pau reverted to jump shooter mode. Not enough enough 4-5 action. That, and the team as whole was lost as hell the entire game.


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:29 PM

Pau defense was also crap.

 

 

Getting paid Superstar money, and keeps doing this. Guess his girlfriend broke up with him again. Need Phil to come slap him in the chest again.

 

Pau was left to guard Duncan so Howard could help out his teammates and did Duncan play any better than Gasol today? He scored 17 on 6-15, 3 TO's and had 10 rebounds. Gasol had 16 on 7-16 shooting, 6 TO's (he had 6 assists to Duncans 1) with 16 boards (game leading) and 2 steals. He struggled with his shot but he more than held his own 



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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:42 PM

Yeah pau played like [expletive]. The guy can do nothing right. <br /><br />One thing. He didn't shoot well. Like MDI stated he hasn't shot well since KB went down. Pau has chemistry with Kobe. He doesn't have any with Nash, has built some Dwight.

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:52 PM

Pau was left to guard Duncan so Howard could help out his teammates and did Duncan play any better than Gasol today? He scored 17 on 6-15, 3 TO's and had 10 rebounds. Gasol had 16 on 7-16 shooting, 6 TO's (he had 6 assists to Duncans 1) with 16 boards (game leading) and 2 steals. He struggled with his shot but he more than held his own 

 

True, but it doesn't tell the entire story. Pau was on Duncan for most of the game, but there were long stretches of the game where he had Matt Bonner on him and didn't take advantage of it on the low block. There was also a 3-4 minutes stretch where all 6'5 of DeJuan Blair was matched up against him at the 5 and he didn't bother trying to establish low post position. He had 2 plays where he did against Bonner, and they resulted in good looks for him and easy buckets. He absolutely needs to take advantage of that mismatch in this series if we want any chance of seeing the next round.

 

Too many jumpers as well, settled far too often as a first resort. We're not going to beat San Antonio with our big men shooting jumpers, Dwight included (I have no clue WHY he took those two jumpers early on). They need to establish low post position, pound San Antonio down-low, force Duncan into foul trouble, and make Pop have to run some combo of Splitter/Bonner/Blair to cover them. That's the only chance we have of making this a series.



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Posted April 21, 2013 - 02:59 PM

True, but it doesn't tell the entire story. Pau was on Duncan for most of the game, but there were long stretches of the game where he had Matt Bonner on him and didn't take advantage of it on the low block. There was also a 3-4 minutes stretch where all 6'5 of DeJuan Blair was matched up against him at the 5 and he didn't bother trying to establish low post position. He had 2 plays where he did against Bonner, and they resulted in good looks for him and easy buckets. He absolutely needs to take advantage of that mismatch in this series if we want any chance of seeing the next round.

 

Too many jumpers as well, settled far too often as a first resort. We're not going to beat San Antonio with our big men shooting jumpers, Dwight included (I have no clue WHY he took those two jumpers early on). They need to establish low post position, pound San Antonio down-low, force Duncan into foul trouble, and make Pop have to run some combo of Splitter/Bonner/Blair to cover them. That's the only chance we have of making this a series.


This.  But at the same time our guys need to hit their open shots so that San Antoni doesn't collapse as much which will give Gasol more of those opportunities.

When we tried to work it in the post when the Spurs were collapsing on our bigs, it resulted in turnovers which is why we had 18 of them today.

When Pop collapses, we have to make them pay for it by making wide open shots from the mid range or even layups(like we missed today), and then when Pop has to switch defense back to our perimeter players THEN Gasol needs to take advantage of those opportunities and get on the block.   I mean the Blair situation was the MOST frustrating for me, because Popovich basically switched his entire lineup to defend the perimeter because we were hitting shots.   He basically said "Alright, we'll give up post shots and hope our threes fall." with that lineup.   And Pau never took advantage of Blair in the post and the two times he got the ball there he gave it back to Blake.   That can't happen in game two.

All and all I loved the defense we played against San Antonio(save Jamison sagging off perimeter players all day)


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 03:01 PM

Lol at all the people that said the Lakers are better off without Kobe.

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 05:01 PM

Lol at all the people that said the Lakers are better off without Kobe.


There's a reason why the players who stepped up in the first few games when Kobe was out don't look like that every game. It's fools gold. Steve Blake is a veteran who's played in the league for many years. He's not suddenly going to average 20+ on a consistent basis.

 

I honestly believe in the Patrick Ewing theory. A team may be better initially after a star is out because of increased urgency, but it's not going to last. I think the Lakers have come to the end of that.


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Posted April 21, 2013 - 06:34 PM


There's a reason why the players who stepped up in the first few games when Kobe was out don't look like that every game. It's fools gold. Steve Blake is a veteran who's played in the league for many years. He's not suddenly going to average 20+ on a consistent basis.

I honestly believe in the Patrick Ewing theory. A team may be better initially after a star is out because of increased urgency, but it's not going to last. I think the Lakers have come to the end of that.


Agree. Teams commonly play better 1 or even 5 games in a row without their superstar. Ultimately. They are what they are and get exposed.

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 06:37 PM


There's a reason why the players who stepped up in the first few games when Kobe was out don't look like that every game. It's fools gold. Steve Blake is a veteran who's played in the league for many years. He's not suddenly going to average 20+ on a consistent basis.

 

I honestly believe in the Patrick Ewing theory. A team may be better initially after a star is out because of increased urgency, but it's not going to last. I think the Lakers have come to the end of that.

 

The Ewing theory is the other way, the team will have success if their main player (who puts up empty stats) is missing.

 

Here are some examples that Simmons believed would qualify

 

  • Drew Bledsoe: Every Patriots fan is nodding right now.
  • Michael Vick: Textbook case. Everybody's already writing off Virginia Tech for next season, despite the fact that they never won anything with Vick. They might post a 12-0 next season.
  • Chris Webber: Don't laugh. What happens if C-Webb leaves the Kings this summer, and they use the extra cap space to sign two second-tier free agents?
  • Vince Carter: Watch the Raptors in two years, after Vince joins MJ in DC (and you know it's happening).
  • Griffey: The baseball version of Ewing.
  • Kobe Bryant: After they split him up from Shaq and he gets his own team.
  • Pete Sampras: This one makes sense, if you think about it. Taking Sampras out of the men's tennis equation could make Wimbledon more interesting and allow younger, more charismatic players to rise to the forefront.
  • Barry Bonds: It's unfair, but he fits the formula.
  • Manning: You can feel the "Manning goes down and the Colts rally behind James & Harrison" moment coming in the next few years, can't you?

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Edited by MDI, April 21, 2013 - 06:40 PM.

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 07:22 PM

The Ewing theory is the other way, the team will have success if their main player (who puts up empty stats) is missing.

 

Here are some examples that Simmons believed would qualify

 

  • Drew Bledsoe: Every Patriots fan is nodding right now.
  • Michael Vick: Textbook case. Everybody's already writing off Virginia Tech for next season, despite the fact that they never won anything with Vick. They might post a 12-0 next season.
  • Chris Webber: Don't laugh. What happens if C-Webb leaves the Kings this summer, and they use the extra cap space to sign two second-tier free agents?
  • Vince Carter: Watch the Raptors in two years, after Vince joins MJ in DC (and you know it's happening).
  • Griffey: The baseball version of Ewing.
  • Kobe Bryant: After they split him up from Shaq and he gets his own team.
  • Pete Sampras: This one makes sense, if you think about it. Taking Sampras out of the men's tennis equation could make Wimbledon more interesting and allow younger, more charismatic players to rise to the forefront.
  • Barry Bonds: It's unfair, but he fits the formula.
  • Manning: You can feel the "Manning goes down and the Colts rally behind James & Harrison" moment coming in the next few years, can't you?

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Hah, I see. I'll stop referring it to that.

 

But I think teams do tend to step up more during a limited time frame whenever any superstar is out.


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Posted April 24, 2013 - 07:48 PM

Pau back to himself again.



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Posted April 24, 2013 - 07:53 PM

Continuing where he left off from last year

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Posted April 24, 2013 - 08:13 PM

5-14 13 points

This is why you don't get excited for Gasol till he does it in the playoffs.

 

averaging 13-9 in the playoffs in the first 2 games.

Like last year.   Well he has a point and a rebound more.


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