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#1 Guest_Nissan_*

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 12:33 PM

1. Boston: Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen
Three Hall of Famers. Two great closers (Pierce and Ray), one terrific defender and rebounder (KG). A 7-footer (KG), a slasher (Pierce) and a textbook jump shooter (Ray). A ring.

By the way, Pierce is nuts if he thinks he's the league's best player. I love his game and he was definitely the finals MVP. But Paul, don't get it twisted: You're probably not even in the top 10 (I feel like Roger Federer talking to Neil Everett): (In no particular order) LeBron, Kobe, Chris Paul, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Deron Williams, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire.

I like Paul's confidence, though.

2. San Antonio: Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili
Duncan's aging, but I'm not ready to count these three out just yet. All three could end up in the Hall of Fame: Parker for being a key star on at least three title teams, and Ginobili for his success on the world stage.

3. Los Angeles Lakers: Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol
If Bynum returns quickly to the form he displayed (17.6 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 2.1 bpg) in the three weeks preceding his injury, this will be the league's second-best trio, at least. And a fourth option like Lamar Odom only strengthens the Lakers' version of the Big Three.


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#2 Mo Rings

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 01:34 PM

Pertinent data: this will be the league's second-best trio, at least

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 01:37 PM

Our trio beat San Antonio's trio and they're getting older.


But even if our trio is third, our (whatever goes after trio to describe 4 . . . :lol:) is better.
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 01:41 PM

What about our Quattro?
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 01:49 PM

Lakers should be ahead of the Spurs. We basically beat them with a duo plus Lamar Odom since Bynum wasn't even playing.

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 01:52 PM

Houston now gives a race, but they dont have a 4th option like us.
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 02:07 PM

Yeah. I look at it as we have the best quartet.

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 02:19 PM

We are going to be the best in the west, that's for sure.
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 02:34 PM

Our trio beat San Antonio's trio and they're getting older.


But even if our trio is third, our (whatever goes after trio to describe 4 . . . :lol:) is better.


How can you say that? The Lakers TEAM beat San Antonio's TEAM. Are you going to say that Odom, Vladi, Fish, Farmar, Sasha, Luke, Ronny, and Ariza played no part in beating the Spurs? Bynum didn't even play, so it would have been Kobe and Pau vs. Duncan, Parker, and Manu.

I disagree with the order of the top 2. Spurs should be #1. Their TRIO is the best in the league. Their team isn't, but their TRIO is. They've been able to accomplish amazing things with terrible supporting casts. Boston is #2 because of what they did, winning the championship. I don't think the Lakers should be #3. Of course all of us here are biased, so people think they should be higher than they are. The truth is the Lakers as a team should be up there, but the Lakers trio isn't all that good. Arenas/Butler/Jamison are better than the Lakers trio, the Lakers team is better than the Wizards team tho.

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 02:38 PM

I think we have the best...and we certainly have the best fantastic four. Here are some "by the numbers:

Pts + Ast + Reb
Allen 17.4 3.1 3.7
Garnett 18.8 3.4 9.2
Pierce 19.6 4.5 5.1
55.8 11.0 18.0

Manu 19.5 4.5 4.8
Duncan 19.3 2.8 11.3
Parker 18.8 6.0 3.2
57.6 13.3 19.3

Kobe 28.3 5.4 6.3
Gasol 18.9 3.2 8.4
Odom 14.2 3.5 10.6
61.4 12.1 25.3

Or...
Bynum 13.1 1.7 10.2
60.3 10.3 24.9

Statistically, we're the best in the big three categories. Best scorers, best rebounders (by a ton), and with Odom we're in te mix for assists.

By PER (offensive / defensive / differential)
Manu 27.0 12.6 +14.5
Duncan 28.0 16.9 +11.1
Parker 22.6 14.7 +7.9
SAS 77.6 44.2 +33.4

Kobe 26.9 14.4 +12.5
Gasol 26.7 17.5 +9.2
Bynum 25.2 14.8 +10.4
LAL 78.8 46.7 +31.9

or
Odom 19.4 16.9 +2.6


Garnett 29.4 13.9 +15.5
Pierce 22.7 12.5 +10.2
Allen 18.4 12.4 +6.0
BOS 70.5 38.8 +31.7
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 02:44 PM

^^With those stats it looks like we will be the best rebounding team by miles, Drew and LO avg 10 or more Pau 8 and Kobe 6 for a guard.
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 02:50 PM

What trio? We dont have a trio we have a Quattro which is the best Quattro in the world!

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 03:05 PM

Our trio of Kobe, Pau, and Odom beat San Antonio's.

Like w42n1rv4n4 said anyway, we have a quattro now. :D

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 03:06 PM

^^With those stats it looks like we will be the best rebounding team by miles, Drew and LO avg 10 or more Pau 8 and Kobe 6 for a guard.

Yeah, the rebounding numbers are pretty insane. We could have 38 boards coming from our starters...and Sasha's a decent rebounder for a Guard. Mihm is decent, too. That could be huge for us. It was a definite weakness last season.
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Posted July 31, 2008 - 04:20 PM

Lakers should be ahead of the Spurs. We basically beat them with a duo plus Lamar Odom since Bynum wasn't even playing.


agreed.

if healthy TMac Yao and Artest should be 4th, IMO.

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 10:43 PM

I actually posted that in the PeePee accusation thread with regards to the paragraph by Broussard where he too agreed PeePee isn't even in the top 10. :(

And yeah, I agree Lakers should be ahead of Spurs, we ideally beat their trio though with Manu being ineffective WITH our 2nd-phase trio(Kobe, Pau, Lamar) instead.




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Posted July 31, 2008 - 11:07 PM

I think the Lakers are fine at 3rd. The other two trios have accomplished a lot more than the Lakers trio have so far.

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Posted July 31, 2008 - 11:27 PM

Let ESPN rank however they want..

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Posted August 01, 2008 - 04:58 AM

Dont even fear the spurs anymore. Lakers are 1 really. west coast.....come on.

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#20 Rick

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Posted August 01, 2008 - 06:58 AM

How can you say that? The Lakers TEAM beat San Antonio's TEAM. Are you going to say that Odom, Vladi, Fish, Farmar, Sasha, Luke, Ronny, and Ariza played no part in beating the Spurs? Bynum didn't even play, so it would have been Kobe and Pau vs. Duncan, Parker, and Manu.

I disagree with the order of the top 2. Spurs should be #1. Their TRIO is the best in the league. Their team isn't, but their TRIO is. They've been able to accomplish amazing things with terrible supporting casts. Boston is #2 because of what they did, winning the championship. I don't think the Lakers should be #3. Of course all of us here are biased, so people think they should be higher than they are. The truth is the Lakers as a team should be up there, but the Lakers trio isn't all that good. Arenas/Butler/Jamison are better than the Lakers trio, the Lakers team is better than the Wizards team tho.


I think the comparison is to NOW, and as it stands NOW the Spurs are getting older and declining. To be fair though, Manu was hobbled with an injury so he probably would have done better than he did. We haven't seen our Trio in action yet so we must be talking about an estimate. I estimate our Trio of AB/PG and KB is on paper the best by the end of this year, assuming we remain healthy. We've got a lot of skill, talent, length, POWER and IQ in our trio and we're going to dominate next year! Ya! :rock:




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