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#1 magic90015

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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:09 PM

Another Lakers game of not shooting 3 point well and loose.

Lakers shot 23% behind the 3.

and still just kept shooting.

Lakers Don't have Game plan B when 3 point doesn't go in.

And another game of not using Pau Gasol in the paint.

Lakers have to trade Pau Gasol if They are not going to use him in the paint.

 



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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:18 PM

Its not about not making the three's, it's about keep on taking contested three's when you are missing wide open ones. And nobody try to defend Kobe on this one PLEASE.

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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:18 PM

its a product of sucky coaches.. not to mention a joke of an assistant staff...oh and please... lose=lost; loose=girls who get prego at 15 are loose


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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:33 PM

MD: shoot 3s.......if that doesnt work.... play defe.....shoot more 3s


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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:40 PM

Lakers not only shot 23% from three, but they also gave up 43% from three. If you can't make threes, the very least you could do is TRY to defend threes.



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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:47 PM

We were all day-dreaming about being able to pair Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol, and now that we do, we just shoot three's. 



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Posted March 25, 2013 - 09:57 PM

We were all day-dreaming about being able to pair Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol, and now that we do, we just shoot three's.


Screwed up interior spacing by the 4 on our 5 leaves very little options for the 1,2 and 3.

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Posted March 25, 2013 - 10:10 PM

As consistent as Meeks and Jamison have been this season, they are both ice cold from the floor. That is not a good thing. For a team that D'Antoni wants shooting a lot of threes, we don't have many "true" three point shooters outside of Nash.



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 04:13 AM

We are a "live by the 3, die by the 3" team .. plain and simple ..



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 05:43 AM

Why is Clark not playing in 1st qrts


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 06:17 AM

With this roster, having the Frank Hamblen offensive schemes is ridiculous. Hopefully next year is better

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Posted March 26, 2013 - 08:48 AM

This team should be crushing other squads, playing inside out.


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 09:05 AM

Lakers are just bad. We've come up with a million reasons for it (coaching, age, coaching, no defense, coaching, injuries, coaching).They have stretches of decent games, then they struggle and look awful, then they look okay again. You know who else does that? Teams like Utah and Dallas and Milwaukee. Teams that just aren't good enough. They look okay for a week or two, look like they've figured something out, then bam, 3 game losing streak or a 20 point beatdown. The Lakers show all the symptoms of being a bad team. One thing D'Antoni is right about this year; "Championship? That's laughable". It's gonna be an ugly first round exit.

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Posted March 26, 2013 - 09:29 AM

Lakers are just bad. We've come up with a million reasons for it (coaching, age, coaching, no defense, coaching, injuries, coaching).They have stretches of decent games, then they struggle and look awful, then they look okay again. You know who else does that? Teams like Utah and Dallas and Milwaukee. Teams that just aren't good enough. They look okay for a week or two, look like they've figured something out, then bam, 3 game losing streak or a 20 point beatdown. The Lakers show all the symptoms of being a bad team. One thing D'Antoni is right about this year; "Championship? That's laughable". It's gonna be an ugly first round exit.

 

I think this is an oversimplification of the situation. Their talent is better than their record suggests and it comes partly from all the injuries but partly because of the style of play. D'Antoni is basically allowing Kobe, Dwight, Pau, etc to play how they want but not actually helping in that regard. When all of them are on the floor it's just a disjointed mess. It's been mentioned by the players before that they don't have any good sets to run in the half court other than pick and roll to get a good shot. There's no movement when the ball goes into Dwight in the post. Little movement when Kobe is isolating. Dwight doesn't set good screens consistently.

 

The difference between winning and losing is not that great with this team. Turn the ball over because nobody knows where to be results in easy baskets for the other team.

 

Golden State shot really well, made some shots they probably don't usually make, and when they got up 15 it got pushed to 25 because of momentum. We saw in the end that when the Lakers are able to play half court defense they aren't too bad. But they only succeed in the small ball game because that's the only real direction they get from the coaching staff.

 

Yes, sometimes the energy isn't there but that again is partly due to injuries and partly due to style of play. When your team is really old, you want to get as much rest as possible. So stop trying to push the ball all the time when you know you can't get fast break points anyway, tiring out your players, so that they don't have energy for defense. 

 

The ideal for this team is to walk the ball up the floor and initiate an offensive set with 18 seconds on the shot clock. It can be pick and roll, but also getting the ball into the post effectively (with at least 12-14 seconds left) to take advantage of matchups. Yesterday that should have been Pau on David Lee, not Dwight on Bogut or Kobe on Klay. If the post doesn't work out, swing the ball back to Kobe or Nash and let them try to create with 6-7 seconds left on the clock. Conserve energy on offense so that it is saved for defense.



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 12:37 PM

To their credit, a lot of the looks from 3 were wide open

 

But since this team doesn't have any Korvers or Novaks from beyond the arc, aside from Nash, I can't really blame teams for leaving MWP, Jamison, Clark and even Blake open



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 12:44 PM

Golden State is a really good basketball team and are solidly in the playoffs.  Mark Jackson has these no-name players playing together and clicking on all cylinders.  I was particularly impressed with their center, Bogut and their forward Lee.  Lee is a solid basketball player who sinks 20ppg and grabs 10rpg day in and day out.  It is odd that he didn't fit with the Knicks, in putting together their dream team.   

 

While I don't want to underestimate the value of a good coach (Greg Popovitch), the losses begin and end with the players.  Howard getting lost on defense; Kobe trying iso-Kobe; Nash not finding the open man; MWP taking poor shots; and other players not setting picks, staying with their man, or grabbing rebounds.  The coach can only call so many time outs.  This problem begins and ends with the players. 

 

The team has a lot of good pieces in place.  I'm just not sure they are the right pieces.   The player selection and chemistry issues are squarely within the provence of Mitch Kupchak.  Might be time to blow up the team.     



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 01:36 PM

As consistent as Meeks and Jamison have been this season, they are both ice cold from the floor. That is not a good thing. For a team that D'Antoni wants shooting a lot of threes, we don't have many "true" three point shooters outside of Nash.

You think Meeks and Jamison have been consistent this season?  I would define them as wildly inconsistent.  



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 01:45 PM

I said most of that out of frustration. I know they have the talent to be a good team and there are legit reasons for where they are now, but none of that will matter because at the end of the day, you are what your record says. 

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=FMFk_HOR5sA

 

1:19 and 1:52 specifically.

 

They miss pieces like Brown, Farmar, Ariza, and Sasha tremendously. Diving for loose balls, mixing it up with the other team defensively, not afraid to get out and run and try to finish at the rim or shoot the 3 if it's open. They are all flawed players, but they did what they were supposed to do; bring energy on both ends of the floor. 

 

The other reason for that video in particular is how we executed our offense. We were living in the paint, just dominating teams down low. We could still execute that offense, we have the pieces and arguably better 3-point shooters. Nash>Fish, Jamison>LO, Meeks>Brown, Blake>Farmar.

 

Too late for that now though.



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Posted March 26, 2013 - 01:51 PM

You cant win many games if you dont shoot the 3 well, teams pack the paint and dare us to shoot from the outside


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 02:31 PM

Not only that but the spacing screwed up by our 4 5 combination is taking away some interior offensive options so when that's taken away an outside jumper is what's left.

There's a reason we played better when that 4 went to the bench, we're had better movement.

We want to play a slower pace but it slows down our pace too much and to a lethargic pace that throws us out of rhythm and makes our offense stop and go which is bad.

With out current 4 staying a 4 our options inside are screwed via spacing.

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