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[Jackson]

I don't understand?

 

Aren't steroids supposed to make you bigger, faster, and increase your athletic ability?

 

Sure Kobe is dunking on people more often lately, but he's also been extremely smart with the ball. He recognizes who his defenders are, doesn't shoot over double-triple teams, and he's basically finding enough room to hit his shots or take his defenders off the dribble...

 

How does that equate to drug use?

Edited by Jackson, March 08, 2013 - 10:18 AM.

[True Lakers Fan]

because, people are  morons 

[Hero]

I think it's because of his longevity. At the age of 34, and with the minutes that he's logged, he's defying the "norm" of an NBA player. People can't think of anything other than steroids. They don't factor in the fact that he:

 

1) Works his butt off to keep in shape

2) Had that knee surgery thing done in Germany

3) Progressively learns the game

4) Learns his own weaknesses and turns it into his strengths

5) Has the passion to keep getting better and better and be the best basketball player he can be

6) Has the mentality of a warrior that never gives up until he's totally immobilized

[bfc1125roy]

Who's saying that? There was one guy on this board but that's all I can remember lol

[LakersGAFan]

Cuzz of that picture of him and Jose Canseco in the locker room with their shirts off. I keep telling people they wernt shooting roids they were just shooting a soft porn video for charity.

[LakersGAFan]

4got 2 say lock

[Notorious Arab]

If Kobe is not steroids then what the [expletive] is Lebron using. He defies human anatomy.

[Goku]

Kobe is not on steroids. He's on mamba juice.

[fido]

Kobe is such an anomaly of athletes it's hard for most to believe that through dedication, hard work, a strong desire to succeed and keeping in top shape that you can continue to do what he does at 34.

 

Like I say, age is just a number, experience wins.  if you take care of yourself and approach things with a winner's attitude, age doesn't matter whatsoever.

[Saber]

Cuz they hatin

[idontevenknow]

There are many types of steroids. Not saying Kobe is on any of them but he could easily be using a performance enhancer. Im not saying he is!!!

[WWBD]

This meme has just sort of started in the last couple of weeks.  It's because every year people keep talking about how "father time" is going to catch up to Kobe. And every year he seems to defy the odds.  People are forgetting, though, that at the beginning of the season we were all talking about how adding Nash to the roster was going to extend Kobe's playing days, because he won't have to do as much ISO.

[BasketballIQ]

whatever he does is his business, but he is healthier.I think people forget last year his wrist  was broken and his legs were really dead from last year's schedule and the minutes he was forced to play. i'm sure in a lot of ways, this year feels so incredible for him. Because Nash does give him some time off the ball.

[djcovi]

1) Not all PEDs are for making you bigger/faster/stronger. I would argue most players use them for recovery purposes.

2) You don't have to be huge to be on steroids. There are punters in the NFL who have been busted for steroids. Lance Armstrong isn't a big bulky Ray Lewis-type of guy at all, and he was using.

3) In this day and age of sports, you have to assume everyone is guilty because soooo many guys have been caught using PEDs, and in the NBA the drug testing policy is a joke. They don't do blood testing, meaning they cannot detect HGH. That's ridiculous, HGH is one of the most widely used substances and the NBA doesn't have a policy which can detect it. Anyone doing anything abnormally spectacular (like Kobe still tearing fools up in the league after 17 years) is suspect. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Kobe, Jason Kidd, Ray Allen, Dwyane Wade, Dwight, Lebron, etc. were on some type of PED. All of them for varying purposes, not all to be stronger. Injuries, age, to gain mass or explosiveness, endurance, there are a lot of reasons to use steroids.

 

• OJ Mayo, Rashard Lewis, and Hedo Turkaglu have all been caught/suspended for using steroids. It wasn't to gain muscle mass, it was to help recover from injuries and to maintain muscle mass over the course of the long season and to gain muscular endurance. If those guys are using, why wouldn't other players as well? The league won't oust the star players though, even if they did find someone was using.

Why would football players, baseball players, cyclists, etc. use steroids but not basketball players? I'm not saying Kobe IS on steroids, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Edited by djcovi, March 08, 2013 - 01:06 PM.

[MAMBA24ILL]

This is the 1st time i've heard about this...

[djcovi]

I know I've mentioned this before, but: 

 

Rose was asked the following question by ESPN the Magazine, If 1 equals 'What are PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs)'? and 10 equals 'Everybody's Juicing'...How big of an issue is illegal enhancing in your sport?

In response, Rose said, Seven. It's huge, and I think we need a level playing field, where nobody has that advantage over the next person

 

Why would Rose lie about there being a steroids problem? What incentive is there?

 

The point guards' bold declaration comes in direct contrast with a 2005 statement by NBA commissioner David Stern during the height of scrutiny into the steroids issue that year.

It's not a problem at the present time that we think we have, Stern told ESPN. 

Lebron James, star of the Bulls' playoff opponent Miami Heat, agreed with Stern in a 2005 Maxim interview. When asked about steroids in the basketball, James responded, It's something that's not done.

James explained, It's just something in the NBA that hasn't been done, so no one's going to start. I wouldn't expect to see anybody taking steroids in the game of basketball. That would be kind of crazy.

 

There is an incentive for someone like Lebron to lie and say there isn't a problem, and there's definitely an incentive for someone like the commissioner of the league, David Stern to lie and say there isn't a problem. But to lie about it the other way around doesn't make any sense.

 

Full article: http://www.ibtimes.c...-problem-644189

 

I'm not saying for sure that guys in the league are using, because obviously I don't have any proof. I'm just saying there are plenty of reasons why I believe they are.

Edited by djcovi, March 08, 2013 - 01:23 PM.

[Thanatos]

I won't lie and say I haven't wondered, but if you think about it, it's not really that weird.

 

I mean, Kobe the last two years has been banged up (2011) and has also had to be the primary/ONLY ballhandler (2012). So with the combination of his body failing him and opposing defenses focusing only on his dribble penetration, it makes it hard for him to attack. People just got used to the thought that Kobe was done. This year, Kobe's been able to play off Nash more and also has Howard sucking attention away inside. He's also healthier, so he's been finding holes in the defense and attacking.

 

If you watch old tape of Kobe, there'd be plays where he'd take 4, 5 guys and just use his athleticism to make a ridiculous play. I haven't seen him do much of that this season, he's just been playing smarter and finding places to attack from.

[Murdercassette]

I'd be inclined to say it's mostly Kobe playing smart, his basketball IQ is incredible. People who make accusations (though definitely not out of the realm of possibility) forget to factor in how much harder KB works. His determination and need to win is only matched by his airness. 

 

Curious about Real Deal's thoughts on this.

Edited by Murdercassette, March 08, 2013 - 02:37 PM.

[last stand 2.0]

Doubt he does but wouldn't be shocked if he did. Guys like Jordan and Kobe are driven to be the best. They are driven to gain as many advantages on their opponents as possible. Extra hours in the gym, extra shots being put up, having the right diet

Like it or not PEDs are an advantage especially if you get away with it

[spacedog1]

If he has the work ethic that we know he does then why would he bother with them? To give him a boost that he already has by doing things the right way? I think it's just those trying to find things to criticize about Kobe, as usual. You don't hear too many people saying these things about LeBron, which doesn't make sense.