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[DanishLakerFan]

Kobe have scored 31056 points so far in his career, just 364 points shy of beating Wilt at 31416.

 

364 points will take him somewhere around 12-15 games depending on how well he performs.

 

A truly remarkable achievement!

 

A quick thought experiment:

Lets assume Kobe keeps his average at 27 the rest of this season.

Let's say Kobe signs a 3yr deal following his current deal.

Let's say he then plays 80, 75, 75 and 75 respectively, scoring 26, 24, 22, 20 points per game.

He would then be the all-time scoring leader with 38.734 points at age 38. Is this unrealistic?

Remember, both Nash and Kidd are 39 right now and still performing at a high level.  

 

One concern: Earlier, when Kobe is nearing a milestone he has a tendency to start gunning a lot. Is this going to be a problem this time around?

[gque24]

 One concern: Earlier, when Kobe is nearing a milestone he has a tendency to start gunning a lot. Is this going to be a problem this time around?

 

The only problem is when his teammates miss their wideopen looks. Thats when Kobe is gunning. Dont have sheet to do with a milestone! SMFH

[Mastas]

Kobe have scored 31056 points so far in his career, just 364 points shy of beating Wilt at 31416.

364 points will take him somewhere around 12-15 games depending on how well he performs.

A truly remarkable achievement!

A quick thought experiment:
Lets assume Kobe keeps his average at 27 the rest of this season.
Let's say Kobe signs a 3yr deal following his current deal.
Let's say he then plays 80, 75, 75 and 75 respectively, scoring 26, 24, 22, 20 points per game.
He would then be the all-time scoring leader with 38.734 points at age 38. Is this unrealistic?
Remember, both Nash and Kidd are 39 right now and still performing at a high level.

One concern: Earlier, when Kobe is nearing a milestone he has a tendency to start gunning a lot. Is this going to be a problem this time around?

He'll be 38 or 39 @the end of his 3yr deal after this one. Definitely achievable

[Goku]

I always envisioned him playing 20 seasons. After his current contract ends a 2-year $20m contract would be viable for both sides. It has one prerequisite though. We need to win either this season or in the next one. I don't think Kobe will want to chase #6 any longer when likes of Lebron will have 3 to crown themselves (and Wade with 4)

 

But let's say we win one. (this season unlikely but next season very possible) then doing a similar thought process:

 

12/13 - 24 gm X 28 ppg = 672 pts

13/14 - 82 gm X 27.5 ppg = 2255 pts

14/15 - 80 gm X 27 ppg = 2160 pts

15/16 - 80 gm X 26.8 ppg = 2144 pts

 

Total: 31056 + 7231 = 38287

 

100 points shy of Kareem's record. And we know Kobe won't let it go. If it's within reach at last 20 games or so, he's gonna up his average and start dropping bombs.

 

7 rings, 3 FMVPs and Kareem's record. It will happen hopefully. G.O.A.T needs to be one of the Laker legends.

[Calisupra2nr]

Even if Kobe gets Kareems record, 2 more rings and another FMVP he still wont be considered GOAT. Top 5 at that point definitely.  Most people consider him top 10, not top 5 now. 

 

Only person I see topping Jordan is Lebron if he wins a couple more MVPs, multiple rings & FMVPs (needs at least 4 more of each), and more crazy seasons like this one...and playoff games like game 7 against boston last year.

[LakerGeezer]

^And what would your plan be to get Kobe into the finals 2 more times, much less win 2 more rings?  I like your enthusiasm, it makes up for the lack of realism in your post.

[Goku]

Either it happens back to back in 13/14 and 14/15 or it doesn't happen at all.

 

Dwight should be back to his self next season. We'll play in the finals. After that it's tough but we can manage it. In 14/15, we'll be able to sign one good FA with our cap situation. Kobe/Howard/Nash/Mr.X look good to me heading into the next one with already having won in previous season. Could it be a 3-peat ? I don't know. But don't act like we can't even do the first step. Remember 08/10.

[LakerGeezer]

 But don't act like we can't even do the first step.

There's what's probable and there's what's posssible.  Almost anything is possible.  Based upon the body of work this year, the coach, the owner, Kobe's age and inevitable decline, the rest of the roster, the lack of tradeable assets, it's just not very likely.

 

Wishful thinking is one thing.  Reality is another.  Baghdad Bob told us there were no Americans in Iraq, as we watched them march into the capital. 

[Goku]

People said Kobe will NOT win another title after Shaq was traded. What happened? As long as this team's name is Los Angeles Lakers, championship is more than likely. This is what we play for. 

[LakerGeezer]

^Again, nice enthusism and sentiment but not grounded in factual reality.  What roster would you rather have TODAY, OKC's or ours?  Who has a better shot at going to the finals in the next few years?  Rings dont win titles going forward. 

[Japago]

The right coach, players traded for Pau's expiring, and a healthy Dwight should help this team a lot.

 

I don't know if it'll be enough, but it should improve the team a lot.

[Goku]

OKC lost the chance to win championship when they traded Harden. They kept the wrong guy. And I'm being realistic. One season playing and facing challenges together does wonders for players. Same [expletive] happened when Boston beat the [expletive] out of us, especially in Game 6.  Heat and Lebron managed to do it as well. We'll get it done next year with Howard back to dominant-Howard. And yes I agree with Japago. If we trade Pau this summer, there will be no doubts. Just hope that the management won't waive that option.

 

Last but not the least, DON'T EVER UNDERESTIMATE THE HEART OF A CHAMPION. 

[LakerGeezer]

^So Tensai, you would rather have ours than OKC's roster because they traded Harden?

 

Speaking of the heart of a champion ... how many players on the current roster actually have rings?  I believe the answer is 3, correct?

 

And how many players on the Clippers have rings from other teams? 4 I think.

 

So... which team should we not underestimate?

[LakersChamps243]

Calisupra2nr what are you smoking? Kobe is already in the top 5 alltime and already the greatest laker of all time. He gets 7 rings and 3 finals Mvps he is without a doubt the G.O.A.T. Just because he's not the best player in the world anymore doesn't mean he magically disappears from the top 5 alltime

[Windu]

Calisupra2nr what are you smoking? Kobe is already in the top 5 alltime and already the greatest laker of all time.

[Goku]

Speaking of the heart of a champion ... how many players on the current roster actually have rings?  I believe the answer is 3, correct?

 

And how many players on the Clippers have rings from other teams? 4 I think.

 

So... which team should we not underestimate?

SMH.

[LakeShow805]

^And what would your plan be to get Kobe into the finals 2 more times, much less win 2 more rings?  I like your enthusiasm, it makes up for the lack of realism in your post.

Its called this guy Dwight Howard. He is kind of a 3x DPOY and one of the best defensive centers to play the game.

[LakerGeezer]

Its called this guy Dwight Howard. He is kind of a 3x DPOY and one of the best defensive centers to play the game.

And we will see how that works out ....

 

LakeShow, after he gets his max deal and sucks the life out of this storied franchise just like he did Orlando, can I re-post your confident sounding prediction?

[LakerGeezer]

SMH.

I know, the facts make me "SMH" as well. 

 

Pretty soon, the most popular area on this board will be the Laker History area, unless we acknowledge the issues and start addressing them soon.  Because all we'll have to discuss is the "remember when" stuff.

[LakeShow805]

And we will see how that works out ....

 

LakeShow, after he gets his max deal and sucks the life out of this storied franchise just like he did Orlando, can I re-post your confident sounding prediction?

Yea go for it because I still have your two idiotic statements saying Harden is better than Kobe and Clippers have a have a better owner than the Lakers lol