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#1 MDI

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 11:35 AM

To show how much injuries have decimated our team
https://twitter.com/...847096647061505

The Lakers most used 5 man lineup has only appeared in 20 games together and only played 255 minutes. Incredibly low for this far into year.


https://twitter.com/...847269234282496

Plus, that unit, the current starting lineup of Nash, Kobe, Ron, Clark, and Dwight has a negative efficiency differential. Yikes.



https://twitter.com/...847555239698432

Further more, the presumed starting group coming into the year of Nash, Kobe, Ron, Pau, Dwight has only played 173 minutes together all year



https://twitter.com/...847878645698560

In those 173 minutes, though, they have an efficiency differential of 5.9. Pretty good considering the "Pau/Dwight not a good fit" talk.


https://twitter.com/...848057939591168

The killer part, though, is that if you swap Nash w/ Steve Blake for a Blake, Kobe, Ron, Pau, Dwight lineup, the numbers are fantastic.



https://twitter.com/...848274575396864

That unit has played 104 minutes together (69 less than the Nash group) and the efficiency differential is +14.6. Much better on defense.



https://twitter.com/...848480452833280

But that brings me back to my original point: these samples are too damn small to take anything from them. Injuries, man. (expletive)

 

This dude is a good analyst and a huge Laker fan must follow on twitter.  Really sucks about injuries


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#2 Tensai

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 12:41 PM

minutes against whom???? dumb statistics.



#3 MDI

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 01:42 PM

^wtf? Total minutes played regardless of opponents

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 01:59 PM

Some of that might have to do with Pau being on the bench for a bit. But still it is startlingly low and that definitely makes it tough to build chemistry.

 

However Mike D'Antoni really laid an egg, and I think that's a much bigger factor here. I say that because under Bernie and without Nash they played fine.


Edited by bfc1125roy, February 27, 2013 - 02:00 PM.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:01 PM

'regardless of the opponents' ? That is retarded and useless stat, I'm sorry. Opponents matter if you are arguing over such a small number.

 

That unit has played 104 minutes together (69 less than the Nash group) and the efficiency differential is +14.6. Much better on defense.

 

I mean this is just idiotic. He doesn't even know what he is talking about. I'd advise whoever he is to watch the game and see that the arguments he made are just the opposite of what he is trying to say. Numbers tell whatever you want them to say. And he wants to say some stupid things.


Edited by Tensai, February 27, 2013 - 02:03 PM.


#6 MDI

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:12 PM

Or you just dont understand the stats he indicated. Its ok

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:16 PM

Try again.



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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:16 PM

I wonder if Nash didn't get injured in the beginning of the season Brown would still be coaching for this team..



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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:18 PM

The Steve Blake in the starting lineup was a better defensive team because of two things.

One Steve Blake is a better defender than Nash. And Two, Mike Brown was our coach.

Our efficiency was high because the Princeton got us a lot of easy shots, we just missed them and thought too much.

We were actually one of four teams in the league top 10 in offense and defense simultaneously.

We were just dealing with injuries and players not being 100 percent much like the Pacers who also struggled early, now look where they are and what they built now that mostly everyone is back and theyf ound their identity.

We didn't give ourselves that kind of time.

Brown wanted Nash playing off ball, running triangle through Kobe and Gasol. A lot of stuff that people said we should be doing when D'antoni was screwing up, but was the stuff they tried to say Mike Brown was an idiot for attempting to do.

Its pretty obvious by now we fired him too soon and he had the right idea.

But we gotta live with it and at the end of the day, injuries hurt us bad. Nash's and Blakes.

Remember the open looks Blake got off ball in the Princeton when he stared? Imagine those going top Nash and all those single digit losses suddenly become wins.

Edited by Majesty, February 27, 2013 - 02:23 PM.

 

I've always liked Steve Blake.

 


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:35 PM

Try again.

 

Or you don't need to post in this thread.  Simple as that. 



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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:38 PM

 that pretty much sums up our year.



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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:43 PM

The injuries to Pau and Hill helped give clark a chance, and let the world know he can be a decent NBA player...

 

The injuries to Steve Nash and Steve Blake, gave Duhon and Morris a chance, and let the world know they do not belong in the NBA



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Posted February 27, 2013 - 02:47 PM

Head coaching change
Injuries
Buss died
And all the other bs media reports on top of that......


This year just isn't our year.

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 03:13 PM

It's no question that injuries and all the other drama continues to play a huge role with this Laker squad. Injuries to key players have been a bad thing and a good thing. Bad because the starting unit hasn't balled together a lot and good because D'antoni would have never know about Clark if Hill didn't go down. I myself thought Morris wasn't that bad. I prefer him over Blake, but that's neither here or there. Very nice stat. Who would've figured that Blake with the other starters was a good thing. Sheesh. Lol
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Posted February 27, 2013 - 03:19 PM

Blake being a low mistake point guard means he can run an offense and that's a bigger deal than people wanted to act like.

Then they got Duhon and Morris..

Now they see the value of Blake and are finally starting to notice all the little things.
 

I've always liked Steve Blake.

 


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 03:48 PM

its obvious when Nash, MWP, & Jamison are on court together = turnovers, fast break pts, easy pts in paint

 

Blake can dribble around it seems much easier than Nash. I dont know if NAsh leg is still issue or if he really has taken a major drop off in his gm from last season. But its getting beyond frustrating watching him unable to run PG.


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Posted February 27, 2013 - 09:23 PM

Or you don't need to post in this thread.  Simple as that. 

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 09:27 PM

:facepalm:

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 09:31 PM

Why would someone get banned for a facepalm?

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