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#61 Drazard

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Posted February 27, 2013 - 10:29 PM

I hope YES


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 03:10 AM

I don't think Houston or the other teams are great. I just think the Lakers are that bad.

 

They just completely no show games. The Clippers beatdown was just 5 games ago. And, they only have a 11-22 record against +.500 teams.


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 03:19 AM

And the Wizards have an 11-4 record against .500 teams with Wall :)

Point is that we're playing consistently, we aren't no showing often(11-4 in the last 15) and we have found a way to play together.

That's all that matter. Throw any doubty statistics this way when an above .500 team was 1-0 and 2-1 when we fought them.

So you can manipulate statistics anyway you want.

What matters is that we're winning now, close games as well when early in the season we were losing those close games.

If you want to keep acting like this team hasn't made progress, that's fine.

You'll be in the minority.

We've improved, we just have to keeep on improving where 15 game stretches of 11-S or 12-3 become average.

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Posted February 28, 2013 - 03:29 AM

And the Wizards have an 11-4 record against .500 teams with Wall :)

Point is that we're playing consistently, we aren't no showing often(11-4 in the last 15) and we have found a way to play together.

That's all that matter. Throw any doubty statistics this way when an above .500 team was 1-0 and 2-1 when we fought them.

So you can manipulate statistics anyway you want.

What matters is that we're winning now, close games as well when early in the season we were losing those close games.

If you want to keep acting like this team hasn't made progress, that's fine.

You'll be in the minority.

We've improved, we just have to keeep on improving where 15 game stretches of 11-S or 12-3 become average.

 

So, the Wizards with Wall are better than the Lakers? Wouldn't completely rule that out.

 

You can't ignore who the Lakers are beating when it comes to their record. The standings do, but we can try to calculate how good the Lakers actually are based on the teams their beating. Out of the teams the Lakers have beaten this month, only 2 have winning records. The Lakers have a 2-4 record against winning teams this month.

 

If the Lakers are gonna make the playoffs, they're going to have to start beating good teams. I don't think that's likely based on what we've seen from them. 1/2 of the Lakers' remaining games are against +.500 teams. Going 4-8 against them would probably take them out of the postseason conversation.


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 03:48 AM

The thing is you can't always calculate on record alone, you should calculate how statistically effective their offense has improved, if their turnovers are down, and where their defense was ranked.

If the Lakers were still terrible they wouldn't win these games, and their statistics wouldn't have changed.

You try to say you won't rule out the wizards being better than the Lakers when Wall isn't injured?

Well I'm gonna counter that and say the Lakers with Nash are better than the Lakers with Morris and Duhon which is where the majority of our losses came then and January :)

They also took place in january where our team dealing with aside from injuries had to play 3 games without Dwight or Gasol$ against OKC and San Antonio.

But since the Memphis loss(which Dwight didn't get to finish) we ran off an 11-4 run and in one of those losses we lost Dwight the phoenix loss.

We lost to phoenix, boston, miami, clippers.

Our losses were to one bad team where one of our main pieces and to a solid boston team on a roll and miami and the clippers the top 3 teams in their conferences. So nothing wrong with that.

Most importantly we avenged the boston and phoenix losses as well.

But also we defeated teams above us(like Utah) and below us like Portland and Dallas.

We went from the 12th seed to the 9th seed.

You don't do that if you don't improve.

Meanwhile golden state who was playing great against winning teams and losing teams free falled from fighting for the top 3 to being a potential 8th seed.

Staristics catchup to everyone, and ours have been steadily getting better game by game and aren't as set in stone as you like, meanwhile teams above us statsa have started to drop.

If we are coming on while they are slowing down and enter the playoffs on that role NO ONE will want us in the first round.

That said we must beat minni today and end february going 12-4 otherwise its all for naught.

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Posted February 28, 2013 - 04:00 AM

The thing is you can't always calculate on record alone, you should calculate how statistically effective their offense has improved, if their turnovers are down, and where their defense was ranked.

If the Lakers were still terrible they wouldn't win these games, and their statistics wouldn't have changed.

You try to say you won't rule out the wizards being better than the Lakers when Wall isn't injured?

Well I'm gonna counter that and say the Lakers with Nash are better than the Lakers with Morris and Duhon which is where the majority of our losses came then and January :)

They also took place in january where our team dealing with aside from injuries had to play 3 games without Dwight or Gasol$ against OKC and San Antonio.

But since the Memphis loss(which Dwight didn't get to finish) we ran off an 11-4 run and in one of those losses we lost Dwight the phoenix loss.

We lost to phoenix, boston, miami, clippers.

Our losses were to one bad team where one of our main pieces and to a solid boston team on a roll and miami and the clippers the top 3 teams in their conferences. So nothing wrong with that.

Most importantly we avenged the boston and phoenix losses as well.

But also we defeated teams above us(like Utah) and below us like Portland and Dallas.

We went from the 12th seed to the 9th seed.

You don't do that if you don't improve.

Meanwhile golden state who was playing great against winning teams and losing teams free falled from fighting for the top 3 to being a potential 8th seed.

Staristics catchup to everyone, and ours have been steadily getting better game by game and aren't as set in stone as you like, meanwhile teams above us statsa have started to drop.

If we are coming on while they are slowing down and enter the playoffs on that role NO ONE will want us in the first round.

That said we must beat minni today and end february going 12-4 otherwise its all for naught.

 

You can make all the excuses you want for the Lakers losses. But the games don't stop being played. If you want to dissect every loss like that, you can make excuses for any team.

 

Again, they are still losing to good teams THIS month. The Lakers are probably improving some. But, they still can't beat good teams.

 

We're talking about the Lakers making the playoffs. It's not hard to improve upon what they were to begin this season. They were awful.


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 04:17 AM

They are improving some and that's the most important.

We've had one of the toughest schedules of any team in the NBA this season(top 3 hardest actually)

Surprised you dn't know that. So we've got an easier road in marcha

No we don't have to beat the top 3-4 teamsd in the league to get a playoff spot.

We can go 13-3 in March and have a 7th or 6th seed with it.

Will this mean nothing to you because you'll say (well we're still losing to high ranked .500 teams)?

Well April is the month we target to beating those top teams consistently hoping we'd found that tactic.

However we DON't make the playoffs if we don't beat the teams in March.

Not a lot of winning records in March either but 13-3 in that month gets us a playoff spot.

So if we're talking about "making the playoffs" now, then they don't have to beat top 4 teams consistently to do it. Just look at their march schedule.

You know what teams are about to enter the rough half while we get the sub .500 teams now? The 3 teams above us.

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Posted February 28, 2013 - 04:22 AM

I'm basically just gonna say what I said in the other topic.

 

Yes, the Lakers are improving. It's good that we can at least count on them to beat bad teams. We couldn't do that before.

 

But, it's a lot different beating good teams than beating bad teams. And, the Lakers still haven't shown the ability to do that.


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 06:54 AM

I'm basically just gonna say what I said in the other topic.

 

Yes, the Lakers are improving. It's good that we can at least count on them to beat bad teams. We couldn't do that before.

 

But, it's a lot different beating good teams than beating bad teams. And, the Lakers still haven't shown the ability to do that.

The last 20 games we've beaten Dallas, Portland, Boston, OKC, Brooklyn and Utah. Those are all good teams.



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Posted February 28, 2013 - 07:44 AM

They are improving some and that's the most important.

We've had one of the toughest schedules of any team in the NBA this season(top 3 hardest actually)

Surprised you dn't know that. So we've got an easier road in marcha

No we don't have to beat the top 3-4 teamsd in the league to get a playoff spot.

We can go 13-3 in March and have a 7th or 6th seed with it.

Will this mean nothing to you because you'll say (well we're still losing to high ranked .500 teams)?

Well April is the month we target to beating those top teams consistently hoping we'd found that tactic.

However we DON't make the playoffs if we don't beat the teams in March.

Not a lot of winning records in March either but 13-3 in that month gets us a playoff spot.

So if we're talking about "making the playoffs" now, then they don't have to beat top 4 teams consistently to do it. Just look at their march schedule.

You know what teams are about to enter the rough half while we get the sub .500 teams now? The 3 teams above us.

 

 

why was it being said Rox have easiest schedule here on out?

 

13-3 is tall task even vs bad teams since LA always loses to bad teams regardless if they are a good team or a horrible team like they are now.

 

15 gms in March ( Im thinking 11-4)

 

ATL - win

OKC - loss

NO - win

Raptors - win

Bulls - loss

Magic - win

ATL -win

Pacers - loss

Kings - win

Suns - win

Wiz - win

GS - loss

Tbums - win

Bucks - win

Kings - win


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:36 AM

Utah might go 4-10 in their next games (they're already 0-2 based on their 14 game schedule that I saw)


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 05:28 PM

Also the other thing is a lot of teams above us have had the easy sub 500 schedules since Japago love to talk about how you gotta beat the 500 teams to get in and such.

Here's some info.

Of the 3 teams in front of LAL, Utah has the toughest remaining schedule. They've had only the 16th toughest so far based on opp. W%. Lakers have had the 3rd toughest.

So its up to us now to take advantage of the easier schedule. If those teams above us start faltering cause they finally get the tough kind of schedule we've dealt with up until this point, what does that tell you? :)

Like I said, the schedules always even out. There's a reason Golden State dropped from top 3 to bottom three and why Utah once considered out of reach is now in striking distance.

The fact we've had the 3rd hardest schedule in the NBA even with all our injuries turmoil and things to adjust to says a lot.

It also says a lot that the teams that got gimmie schedules to start the season are beginning to fall now that the schedule gets rougher while ours is getting easier.

And gque saying we "always lose to bad teams" we just went through an entire month losing(hopefully) only to one..

Edited by Majesty, February 28, 2013 - 05:36 PM.

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#73 Majesty

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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:13 PM

Took care of business tonight and did well.

53 percent shooting from the field 50 percent from three.

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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:18 PM

Utah has 3 easy games coming up but then they are [expletive]ed. I mean chi, knicks, OKC, mephis, kicks agains, SA. We will take 8th seed from them if we do well on these next 8 games. Problem is these next 8 are pretty tough for us as well



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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:29 PM

From 17-25 to 29-30.

 

12-5 run (.706 winning percentage) . A similar run for the rest of the way would get us to 45 wins. I don't think Utah can win 14 more games. I have them at 12 more wins at best and that is if they win against all the lottery teams.



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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:33 PM

From 17-25 to 29-30.

 

12-5 run (.706 winning percentage) . A similar run for the rest of the way would get us to 45 wins. I don't think Utah can win 14 more games. I have them at 12 more wins at best and that is if they win against all the lottery teams.

Utah really got lucky with a weak schedule until now. The month of march will literally destroy there season. 



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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:38 PM

Utah has 3 easy games coming up but then they are [expletive]ed. I mean chi, knicks, OKC, mephis, kicks agains, SA. We will take 8th seed from them if we do well on these next 8 games. Problem is these next 8 are pretty tough for us as well

The first game against Charlotte should be a walkover, but the next two @Milwaukee (.500) and @Cleveland could be losses as well.

BTW, check this:

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Will the Utah Jazz ever have a full roster to work with? It seems that the Jazz have had a steady stream of players missing games at one stretch or another over the past month, from Mo Williams to Earl Watson to Gordon Hayward. Three more starters could miss Utah's game against Charlotte on Friday.
Randy Foye and Paul Millsap are both on baby watch and each missed practice today, writes Jody Genessy of the Deseret News, and Genessy reports that Al Jefferson (ankle) and DeMarre Carroll (knee, MRI) also missed practice.

If none of the four play against the Bobcats, the Jazz will be down to a rotation that consists of only six-to-seven players:


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Posted February 28, 2013 - 10:39 PM

About time other teams suffer from injuries. GO CATS!



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Posted February 28, 2013 - 11:09 PM

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/
 

Guards Jeremy Lin and James Harden sat out Thursday’s practice, and Rockets coach Kevin McHale said he had “no idea” if they will be able to play in Orlando on Friday. McHale said both were “banged up.”

Harden knocked knees with Milwaukee’s Monta Ellis on Wednesday, but after a time out remained in the game. Lin turned his right ankle, but also played his usual minutes. Lin went through post-practice shooting drills, offering an indication he would be able to play.

“Just precautionary, but I’ll be fine for tomorrow,” Lin said of sitting out. “The same thing I’ve been dealing with for a while. I’m going to play for sure. I’ll be fine. I won’t be limited.”


 

Interesting. In the same article..
 

With the Rockets having blown 17-point leads in consecutive losses for the first time in franchise history,

 

Rockets have some issues they traded Patrick Patterson who was a perfect pit at PF for Thomas Robinsons who has more potential not sure if it helps right now their rotations are all messed up and they go small with Delfino at the 4


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#80 Majesty

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Posted February 28, 2013 - 11:43 PM

Yep, teams with the early starts and easy schedules are about to get rough schedules and stretches coming up while ours is much easier than the start of the season was. 6 to 8 could take a major spill with the schedules while we who've had the 3rd roughest schedule in the league are now creeping up while other teams schedules get tough like ours was.

Schedule always evens itself out heheh :D

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