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[Lakerace24]

Defensive rating:

Rudy Gay - 96.4

For comparison:

Paul George - 95.9
Lebron James - 100.9
Kevin Durant - 99.9
Luol Deng - 98.1


Now like I said, no one can guard Durant or Lebron, but Gay does have the athleticism to stick with them and at least present some problems at times.

Have to take those stats with a grain of salt. George is a much better defender than Gay, though Gay has a higher defensive rating.

I'm not saying Gay is a sieve on the defensive end, but he's not on the level of Deng and George, that being said, I'd still want him on the Lakers.

[last stand 2.0]

This has to have either been discussed or is being discussed. Rival GMs don't just say "hey this would be a swell idea for those 3 teams"

Must be smoke whether past or present

[Cj2008nw]

No one takes you seriously because you overrate every young player you mention.

the only player I overrated was Darius Morris and maybe even Tyler Honeycutt.. but besides that most of the players I do name have contributed when they have received minutes

[Lakerace24]

The same reason they are trading away arguably one of their best players...

Who has become expendable because of the other talent on the roster and his contract.

[Cj2008nw]

Who has become expendable because of the other talent on the roster and his contract.

OTHER TALENT?!?!
Beside Conley, Marc, Randolph, and Allen(who is just a defensive specialist) I don't see the talent that your seeing

[L.A.K.E.R]

the only player I overrated was Darius Morris and maybe even Tyler Honeycutt.. but besides that most of the players I do name have contributed when they have received minutes

Gerald Green, Darius Morris, E'Twaun Moore, Chris Copeland, Tyler Honeycutt and now Tony Wroten.

Yeah, let's go off your findings in garbage time, that's all we need to determine that they are NBA-caliber contributors. Just ignore the fact that none of them are rotational players on their teams. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

[Lakerace24]

OTHER TALENT?!?!
Beside Conley, Marc, Randolph, and Allen(who is just a defensive specialist) I don't see the talent that your seeing

???
Are you dense? Yes, that talent. Do you think Memphis would be able to retain Gasol, Randolph, Conley, and Gay?

Do you not remember the Grizzlies making their playoff run without him? Like I said, he has become expendable to them.

Edited by Lakerace24, January 26, 2013 - 02:18 PM.

[Chad]

The Grizzlies seem to have put a halt to their inconsistent ways but trade speculation involving forward Rudy Gay won't end.

According to ESPN's Marc Stein, NBA executives believe the Grizzlies, Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers have engaged in trade discussions that could involve Gay, Paul Pierce and Pau Gasol.
The speculation is that Memphis would receive Pierce, Los Angeles would get Gay, and Gasol would land in Boston.

Griz CEO Jason Levien told reporters earlier this week that no deal was imminent. But it is widely known that the Griz still are open to trading Gay, and expect better offers for the swingman now that the franchise is no longer on the hook for a luxury tax payment.

Memphis shed more than $6 million and got under the tax threshold Tuesday with a multiplayer deal that sent Marreese Speights, Wayne Ellington, Josh Selby and a protected 2015 draft pick to Cleveland for forward Jon Leuer.

The Griz have won two straight games in blowout fashion and host the New Orleans Hornets Sunday in FedExForum.

Edited by Chad, January 26, 2013 - 02:19 PM.

[Cj2008nw]

Gerald Green, Darius Morris, E'Twaun Moore, Chris Copeland, Tyler Honeycutt and now Tony Wroten.

Yeah, let's go off your findings in garbage time, that's all we need to determine that they are NBA-caliber contributors. Just ignore the fact that none of them are rotational players on their teams. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

I'll give you Green as well and I already said Darius Morris but he is still better than blake or Duhon on this roster but outside of that he isn't that good but the funny thing is E'Twaun Moore Efficiency rating is only 2 points lower than Rudy Gay with much less minutes... and Cris Copeland is good and has had a lot of of 20 point games and I already mentioned Honeycutt but you can't say I overrated a player who hasn't played at all or even got minutes the only players under producing when getting minutes is Morris and Gerald Green

[West Coast]

IMMINENT is back!

[West Coast]

Also remember that while many look at Gay's contract and say "No way", Gay has three years left with a player option for that third year. What could potentially happen and its a good chance it does, Gay could opt out after next season and become a key free agent in that 2014 class where someone will overpay for him.

Personally, I think he opts out regardless to try and get one more big contract so it plays perfectly into the Lakers plans.

[last stand 2.0]

Imminent is imminently returning to imminence

[BleedPurple&Gold]

Wroten and Gay plz. And lay off of C he's right on this one about Wroten

Edited by BleedPurple&Gold, January 26, 2013 - 02:36 PM.

[last stand 2.0]

2014 plan made sense, until Kobe led the league in scoring now I doubt he retires. He was on that path when he was struggling but it's seems as though he's found new life. I see him playing until he's 38 now

[L.A.K.E.R]

As far as this deal is concerned, I'm all for it. Gay may not be a stand-out defensive player, but he has all the tools necessary to thrive for us. Length, speed and athleticism are all you need on the perimeter. This gives us a player that can create his own shot, take some of the burden off Kobe on the offensive end (more rest as well), and he's super athletic in transition. I'm not too worried about the contract details either, at least we'd be getting a borderline All-Star with elite athleticism in the middle of his prime. Don't mind that at all. Would much rather invest that money into a player that can actually contribute rather than Pau Gasol.

A starting lineup of Nash/Kobe/Gay/Clark/Howard looks pretty damn good assuming we run the offense through both Kobe and Howard.

[thrilla86]

Gay and Tony Allen, but I dont think we could pull that off.

[Armenian24]

memphis drafts players turns them into great players then trades them to us to win championships lol

[last stand 2.0]

As far as this deal is concerned, I'm all for it. Gay may not be a stand-out defensive player, but he has all the tools necessary to thrive for us. Length, speed and athleticism are all you need on the perimeter. This gives us a player that can create his own shot, take some of the burden off Kobe on the offensive end (more rest as well), and he's super athletic in transition. I'm not too worried about the contract details either, at least we'd be getting a borderline All-Star with elite athleticism in the middle of his prime. Don't mind that at all. Would much rather invest that money into a player that can actually contribute rather than Pau Gasol.

A starting lineup of Nash/Kobe/Gay/Clark/Howard looks pretty damn good assuming we run the offense through both Kobe and Howard.

And ideally 2 of those 4 guys would be on the floor at all times.

Ideally. We all know how that works.

[shooterdp33]

Gerald Green, Darius Morris, E'Twaun Moore, Chris Copeland, Tyler Honeycutt and now Tony Wroten.

Yeah, let's go off your findings in garbage time, that's all we need to determine that they are NBA-caliber contributors. Just ignore the fact that none of them are rotational players on their teams. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Don't forget Terrence Williams...! Haha

[last stand 2.0]

memphis drafts players turns them into great players then trades them to us to win championships lol

During the Kobe era

First time we needed Orlando
2nd time we needed Memphis

3rd time Orlando wasn't enough, we need both this time