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#1 Majesty

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 04:50 PM

Dwight Howard is apparenyly second in the league in post touches behind Al Jefferson of the Jazz who gets the most. But is also leading in turnovers from there. This and getting fouled is what effects his field goal attempts that people love to point out. But in reality only ONE player in the league has gotten the ball in the post more than Dwight.


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D’Antoni knows Howard has gotten the second-most low post touches in the NBA after Utah’s Al Jefferson. Meaning it’s not about the system.
And to be clear, D’Antoni WANTS Howard to get that many touches inside, through screen/roll and post ups. Not a critique w/t stat on touches.


It seems the message hit home to Dwight who stayed after practice to work on his post form to limit turnovers

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Dwight Howard is staying well after shootaround working on keeping the ball high (has been getting stripped), FT’s & now a baby hook.


Bout time.

If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.


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Posted January 25, 2013 - 04:58 PM

good! hes working on limiting his turnovers in the paint..seems like he always gets stripped down there...smh

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 04:59 PM

Just now?

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:13 PM

already posted

http://lakernation.c...-being-a-guard/

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:28 PM

already posted

http://lakernation.com/forums/index.php?/topic/61196-kobe-is-the-most-productive-player-in-the-post-despite-being-a-guard/


And I put some more as well as some extra information from the coach and such so not exactly :)

If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.


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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:30 PM

Lets double post topics :clap2:

Coming back from injury and not making as quick as moves is probably also a factor in the TOs

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:33 PM

Lets double post topics :clap2:

Coming back from injury and not making as quick as moves is probably also a factor in the TOs


Yes it is but it is nice to know the message hit home enough that he started working on keeping the ball high as well as working on some post moves. He actually COULD take lessons from shaq on backdown moves but he's good enough to do them on his own, I've seen them.

If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.


You should reach more often ;)

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:48 PM

Lets double post topics :clap2:

Coming back from injury and not making as quick as moves is probably also a factor in the TOs

Keeping the ball exposed is whats really hurting him. Watching old video of him he does well a keeping it high and moving it away from hands but now he keeps it low. Somthing he's gona have to work on in the offseason

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 07:34 PM

Yeah Dwight seems to have gotten away from the basics that were a second nature to him.

If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.


You should reach more often ;)

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 07:42 PM

Well then, I'd like to redact my statement that he needs more touches. His shot attempts are down but apparently that's his own fault.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 07:48 PM

D’Antoni knows Howard has gotten the second-most low post touches in the NBA after Utah’s Al Jefferson. Meaning it’s not about the system.

Unintelligent statement.

The system is the reason why teams aren't having trouble defending Dwight. There is no spacing, and when there's a lack of spacing, it makes it FAR too easy to send multiple defenders to front a post player ALL GAME LONG.

The concern wasn't the touches, it's the decision to NOT make Steve Nash a shooting threat. If he's not a threat, it means teams have one less guy to worry about, and our only shooter on the floor is Ron Artest (and teams would rather run the risk of losing a game because of Artest vs. any other starter).

Add a second shooter to the mix (Nash), and suddenly, both the post entry AND the pick and roll will be more dangerous. Why stress out defending a P&R that will just lead to a pass to a rolling Dwight? Simple to defend. Add the shot factor? Huge issue for teams to play against that.

This is basic basketball. I'm not even asking for a complicated offense. Just do what is logical...do what a team SHOULD do when it contains two superstar players that demand double teams.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 08:01 PM

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Dwight Howard is staying well after shootaround working on keeping the ball high (has been getting stripped), FT’s & now a baby hook.


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Posted January 25, 2013 - 10:08 PM

Tonight they seemed to play a 2 man game with Kobe and Dwight while Nash played off ball. Worked EXTREMELY well.

If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.


You should reach more often ;)

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 10:10 PM

Tonight they seemed to play a 2 man game with Kobe and Dwight while Nash played off ball. Worked EXTREMELY well.

+ Pau leading the bench worked really well.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 10:11 PM

when refs cheat D12 his touches end up worthless for those possessions
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Posted January 25, 2013 - 10:22 PM

Tonight they seemed to play a 2 man game with Kobe and Dwight while Nash played off ball. Worked EXTREMELY well.

You don't say! :yikes:

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Posted January 26, 2013 - 02:59 PM

Howard will still stuggle against teams that are quick enough to DT him and jump back out to harass the guy they left
His lack of low post moves and the inability of the other guys to move without the ball to areas where they can score is a real problem.

Against Utah Howard touched the ball 19 times....before I stopped counting...this included "touches" that led to scoring, TOs, mishandled, and passes.
So him carring around a piece of paper saying..."look at the stat sheet" really irks me
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Posted January 27, 2013 - 07:31 AM

Funny not so long ago there was no one saying anything negative about Howard, he isn't the goods and whoa remember all the Bynums injury-prone stuff and you now see guess who injured multiple times? Late game liability, poor fts and no post go to moves but this is my first time pointing this out or is it?




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