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#1 MDI

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 11:21 AM

https://docs.google....RFZDBMMmc#gid=0

-Kobe is Number 1 in FG% when posted up. Number 1 in points produced in postups

-Pau Gasol is 41st in the league when it comes to points produced per postup (.76) so whatever opportunities hes getting hes not converting them at an acceptable rate...Dwight isnt any better, .78

- Out of the list of 50 players mentioned in that list, Pau Gasol has the lowest FG% when it comes to post up plays

- Howard gets the 2nd most amount of post ups plays in the league behind Al Jefferson, he would be number 1 if he didnt miss so many games or didnt get tossed out

- Howard is 9th in the NBA in FG% out of the post. Problem is he has the 4th highest amount of turnovers. So he either scores or turns the ball over too much


Edited by MDI, March 11, 2013 - 09:53 AM.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 11:38 AM

Pau was good when he was in the post last season. I remember that he was statistically better than Bynum when posting up.

It says what most of us have known: Most of this season falls on him.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 12:06 PM

The only other team that has a twin tower lineup thats comparable to ours last few years is Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph

Gasol, .93 points per postup
Zach Randolph .86 points per postup

Gasol turns it over only 8% of the time in the post
Randolph turns it over only 10% of the time in the post
( In comparison Dwight turns it over 20% , Kobe 13%, Pau 11%)

Free throws Marc Gasol 87% , Randolph 75%

FG% when posting up...Dwight 48%, Marc Gasol 42%, Zach Randolph 44%

Turnovers and free throws are just screwing things up right now, say what you want about Dwights post moves hes still shooting a higher % from the field when he posts up than those two guys but hes gotta stop turning the ball over and we can live with his poor free throw shooting...its one or the other


Good start to rectifying that today

https://twitter.com/...887916847640576

Dwight Howard is staying well after shootaround working on keeping the ball high (has been getting stripped), FT’s & now a baby hook.




Pau is likely a goner, he doesnt turn the ball over, he shoots a high FT% and yet the results are poor when it comes to post ups hes just not converting them at an adequate rate, he is getting plenty of opportunities down there

Edited by MDI, January 25, 2013 - 12:09 PM.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 12:16 PM

That's pretty amazing, thanks for posting this

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 12:42 PM

cool info MDI.
Kobes still beast

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 03:32 PM

Wow I thought it would have been LeBron. I know LeBron probably has the most effective post game in the NBA because he's younger and can score with ease, but Kobe's is by far and away the most polished and skilled. LeBron's is still really raw if you watch. We just don't get to see Kobe's that much though, because our [expletive]ing coach doesn't believe in posting players up.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 03:39 PM

LMAO combining Olajuwon and Jordan in the post

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#8 Majesty

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 04:02 PM

So Kobe is the best post player in the league this year while leading the league in scoring and shooting the highest percentage of his career?

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:01 PM

Crazy. Good post MDI.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:09 PM

Imagine how good we could have been with Phil... Kobe and Pau going to work down low and Dwight cleaning everything up while Nash hits twice the 3s Fisher used to.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:13 PM

I wish Kobe would play more in the post instead of taking long jumpers so frequently. He's deadly down low

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:14 PM

^ I think most of us would. He'd not only be much more efficient, but it could really save his legs more and extend his career.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:16 PM

This is where having 2 bigs hurts, where you gonna put the bigs if Kobe is in the post? I posted an article earlier this year the Lakers are at their best with only one of the 2 bigs. THe twin tower thing doesnt work. Kobe's FG% skyrockets with only one big on the floor. The team does better on offense and defense with only big on the floor

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#14 Majesty

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:30 PM

Chalk it up to another reason Gasol and Howard shouldn't be on the floor at the same time.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:33 PM

^ Two posts above, exactly. Stats as well as just watching the game with your eyes don't lie.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:35 PM

Know what I notice that the only semblence of a double post I've ever seen semi run was with Kobe and Dwight and it lead to an alley oop from Kobe to Dwight.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:42 PM

Lol I literally just was watchng a half time thing with magic and some other guys and they were talking about how MD never gets the ball to howard. I swear I don't think anyone on espn looks at stats. Howards lack of performance is mostly because of himself. He turns the ball over way to much and watching old video of him he still went against double teams and didn't get stripped. Idk how this started to happen but the guy needs to post techniques next season and how to hold onto the ball

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:50 PM

^ Somebody should tweet' em' this [expletive]! If I had one I would, but I don't. Easiest way to connect with them/potentially inform & grab their attention.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 05:54 PM

^ Somebody should tweet' em' this [expletive]! If I had one I would, but I don't. Easiest way to connect with them/potentially inform & grab their attention.

They would never achnoledge that there only source of information is espn its self.

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Posted January 25, 2013 - 09:50 PM

Wow I thought it would have been LeBron. I know LeBron probably has the most effective post game in the NBA because he's younger and can score with ease, but Kobe's is by far and away the most polished and skilled. LeBron's is still really raw if you watch. We just don't get to see Kobe's that much though, because our [expletive]ing coach doesn't believe in posting players up.


layups & dunks are not post moves. LBJ scores in transition & wen guys clear the lane & get out is way! He is a PG he isnt in the post but 2-3 times a gm
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