38 replies to this topic

[steven v]

No, I would not be sad at all, if he gets traded it will be cause he sucks and we need better players to become an elite team again. I'd rather have a 14p-8r, 12-million player who contributes to create a winning, tough contender than those empty stats from Howard.

Agreed.


I am a Lakers fan not a players fan..

I want the team to win not one guy to win.


I was never ever convinced of Dwight's greatness.

Great rebounder, great shot blocker. but that's about it.

[Phil Jackson]

Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Dwight Howard apologizes, says he needs to be "more of a player out there on the court and not worry about anything, not complain." #Lakers

Do you guys forgive Dwight?

[FranklinPeanuts]

Actions speak louder than words. He can say whatever he wants....

[West Coast]

Needs to go out and back up his words, not just for one game, but for the rest of the season.

[UKUGA]

His back shouldn't affect his attitude. and effort. There is something wrong with this guy.

That's pretty simplistic.

If his back is preventing his effectiveness, then that will frustrate him. What may appear to be a lack of effort, may actually be reduced/limited athleticism.

As far as attitude goes, a lot of that goes back to maturity. But lots of coddled NBA superstars have maturity issues. The Lakers have a guy wearing #24 who has had issues with this throughout most of his career, and was on the cusp of being traded away at least one time.

Another thing affecting his attitude, though, is the losing. The losing is partly on him, but not completely. He's just one (very important) piece of the puzzle. Lot's of guys are frustrated, and it's understandable, they just handle it differently.

I would be much more upset at Dwight right now if he just didn't care. Clearly, that is not the case. The problem is that he needs to get focused on what he can do to fix things (some of that is improving health, which takes time) and not go on around showing stat sheets to anyone who will pay attention. We watched the game. We know what happened. The problem wasn't that Dwight didn't get the ball.


One of the biggest problems to solving all this, though, is that the play-offs are almost completely outside of the realm of possibility. (I finally resigned us to missing them after the last Denver loss, and things have not improved since then to change my mind.)

So, even if we do play better, if it's not enough to get us into the play-offs, then the overarching theme will continue to be that the team underachieved and what needs to be done to fix the problem. Accordingly, this issue with Dwight will hange over our heads right up until at least the middle of July.

Edited by UKUGA, January 23, 2013 - 01:58 PM.

[LakeShow805]

I'll be heated as [expletive] if the FO trades him.

[Busty Bluth]

He'd be dead to me.

[Clutch]

thoughts on his character have been same, but i wouldnt hate him for the rest of his career, this whole situation with the lakers was messed up to begin with (no depth, age, bad coaching, injuries, wrong personell that dont fit with team philosophy or system etc. etc.)..ill get over it quick if he leaves, as long as i see something good in return from management, otherwise i would rather still stick with dwight through the season and look to re-sign him and make some other moves to get him to stay in la

his ego seems to be clashing too much though with kobe's..or so the media is making it seem, probably has truth to it though im sure

[manaro90]

hmmmm

[Mr Terrific]

I would be shocked if he is traded.

I wouldn't. 4 Future HOFers and you can't make the Playoffs? There has to be A Cancer in that locker room

[Mr Terrific]

Agreed.


I am a Lakers fan not a players fan..

I want the team to win not one guy to win.


I was never ever convinced of Dwight's greatness.

Great rebounder, great shot blocker. but that's about it.

I'll never forget it. Somebody asked Jeff Van Gundy if D12 to the Lakers was a good deal before the season started. Van Gundy said only if he understands he's the 4th best player on the team. Now the rest is history

Edited by Mr Terrific, January 23, 2013 - 04:54 PM.

[Windu]

One of JVG's idiot statements

[noknife]

I'll never forget it. Somebody asked Jeff Van Gundy if D12 to the Lakers was a good deal before the season started. Van Gundy said only if he understands he's the 4th best player on the team. Now the rest is history

In fairness, he is probably the 3rd best.

[Mr Terrific]

Van Gundy was talking about being able to create offense without turning the ball over

[viktorkain]

In all Honesty quite a few trades need to be made for this team to make any sort of headway. Both Dwight and Pau need to go and while we are at it I would even trade Nash. This entire experiment was a complete and utter bust and someone is going to have to eat crow.

[last stand 2.0]

A healthy Dwight Howard is at worst the 1B of this team. If you think otherwise time to watch a different sport or you've never watched a healthy Dwight Howard before

[viktorkain]

A healthy Dwight Howard is at worst the 1B of this team. If you think otherwise time to watch a different sport or you've never watched a healthy Dwight Howard before

Having a chance to watch him in most games he has played in against or for the Lakers I can say he has definitely lost a step. I can also say he has horrible hands, little to no back to the basket game and Could not hit a free throw if you put a gun to his head. After watching him as a member of this team I also noticed a few things I never really took note of when he played for Orlando. He cannot really command a double team and it is really not that hard to keep him out of the paint as long as you have fresh bodies with ample fouls to hand out. He has less than half the offensive game that Bynum possessed but at least he is currently on the court and wont miss a lot of games due to injury.... wait.

Edited to add: He is definitely a locker room cancer and argues with the refs entirely to much to be getting paid the amount of money he is getting to PLAY the damn game.

Edited by viktorkain, January 23, 2013 - 10:07 PM.

[MiguelSanchez]

I think he will get back a lot of his explosiveness after a full year. It sounds like the disk problem was hitting some nerve roots, and it takes a while for those to really recover (see Peyton Manning). I don't think he could put that sticker on the backboard as high as he did in the dunk contest. A year from now, I think he'll have confidence in his legs back, and have fully recovered.

If they trade him, I believe it's because he tells them straight up that he won't re-sign here (possibly with conditions, e.g. he won't re-sign if D'Antoni is still here). It's as much about how D'Antoni doesn't coach defense as the offensive system.

[-MagicKareemKobe-]

A healthy Dwight Howard is at worst the 1B of this team. If you think otherwise time to watch a different sport or you've never watched a healthy Dwight Howard before

This X 10000.

Dwight has been bad at times, but he isn't close to the Lakers problem. He's been the best Lakers besides Kobe and he isn't 100 percent and playing in an offense that is horrible for him.

My opinion won't change of him if he leaves. I like Dwight. I did before he was a Laker and I like him now that he's on my favorite team. It would suck that my jersey would be a wasted purchase but oh well. I wouldn't blame him if he left with how crazy this crap has been.