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#81 last stand 2.0

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 08:26 AM

If it's legit, WE probably don't want it to be a direct-deal, for we're just gonna end up with Lopez's monster contract

King wants a Love to Lakers, Dwight to BKN, and Lopez to Wolves apparently.

Don't like Love, but it's better than Lopez's contract. Personally, I'd prefer young talents and draft picks


Noone is giving up young prospects for Lopez and brooks, and noone is giving up young prospects for Howard
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Posted January 22, 2013 - 08:27 AM

LOL! They're loaded with bad contracts... I'd rather let Dwight walk! Which won't happen...
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Posted January 22, 2013 - 08:50 AM

You don't trade Dwight.

I like Steve kerr, but the guy was a terrible GM. He set the Suns back 4 to 5 years with his moves and there's a reason he's not there any

At the very worst, Dwight leaves and you're left with a chunk of money to spend on rebuilding the team in a different direction, or you start clearing room for 2014.

A fish rots from the head down. D'Antoni and this non-existent "system" everyone talks about needs to be the first thing to go. Yes, the Lakers would be paying two fired coaches, but that's the price you pay for making terrible coaching decisions, they know that.

Trading Dwight would be one of the worst knee-jerk reactions they could have to this abysmal season.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 08:57 AM

So what is the solution at this point. Keep the roster intact and hope for a late push. Trade Pau? Dwight? Nash?

Listen to all offers for everyone not named Kobe and Dwight, sit D'Antoni's ass down and tell him to run a double-post motion offense if he's not going to go four-out, one-in (and let him know his job is up for grabs), and reconstruct this offense just in time to get us into the playoffs, praying that we can pull off an upset on talent alone.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:03 AM

That's what I said previously.

The entire team is up for deals outside of just who you mentioned, Kobe & Dwight.

And for the record D'Antoni won't listen to suggestions, its not in his nature. The best option, though they would be paying two fired coaches, is to let him go and re-insert Bickerstaff for the remainder of the season until you can either beg at Phil's feet, find a way to get Byron Scott here or get Brian Shaw back in the fold (who should've gotten the job before Mike Brown in the first place).

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:14 AM

We can still make playoffs. Portland cutting us some slack. We won't make playoffs with D'Antoni or Pau Gasol though.

Edited by Ham, January 22, 2013 - 09:15 AM.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:18 AM

Wishful thinking, this team won't make the playoffs.

And quite frankly if they do it only justifies keeping D'Antoni and the staus quo - two things this team should be avoiding at all costs.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:21 AM

If we make playoffs and don't reach the finals D'Antoni will still be fired.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:40 AM

If we make playoffs and don't reach the finals D'Antoni will still be fired.


They maybe stubborn enough to say with all the turmoil & injuries now lets give COach a full training camp & see if he can right the ship! I see Lakers FO doing this b4 doing the right thing & send him walking.
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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:41 AM

They maybe stubborn enough to say with all the turmoil & injuries now lets give COach a full training camp & see if he can right the ship! I see Lakers FO doing this b4 doing the right thing & send him walking.

I'm pretty sure they are realizing D'Antoni is an idiot. Well, at least I hope they are.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:42 AM

They maybe stubborn enough to say with all the turmoil & injuries now lets give COach a full training camp & see if he can right the ship! I see Lakers FO doing this b4 doing the right thing & send him walking.


Ah the full training camp bit. I remember the last time we used that.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 09:59 AM

Oh god no, not the full training camp routine again. Like when we gave Mike 1 a full training camp and he went 0-8. How about we give the right coach a full training camp and get rid of the crap coach BEFORE the season starts so we aren't lagging behind everyone else again

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:06 AM

Oh god no, not the full training camp routine again. Like when we gave Mike 1 a full training camp and he went 0-8. How about we give the right coach a full training camp and get rid of the crap coach BEFORE the season starts so we aren't lagging behind everyone else again


to be fair Brown didnt have a full training camp

Full successful training camp = means the entire roster is healthy & participating in practice & preseason games together. Not 1-2 of the starting 5 out there & rest reserves.
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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:06 AM

Ding: Time to hold Dwight Howard accountable


Kevin Ding column: The Lakers' season has been undermined by Dwight Howard's unwillingness to move beyond his own interests.



By KEVIN DING

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CHICAGO – You can feel some sympathy for Dwight Howard, who again had an ice pack strapped to his back after the Lakers' latest loss Monday night.

You can acknowledge that he holds the power to act however he wants, because he can leave the Lakers with nothing at season's end as a free agent.

You just can't let him get away with the subpar effort, lack of responsibility and ongoing immaturity that has prevented the Lakers from ever truly uniting this season.

He has failed in that central way that everyone who has ever played on any team can understand: You get a feel for the other personalities, you make real efforts to serve in the best way for the team to win, and you earn your standing in the group by playing hard.

None among the cast of Lakers characters are blameless in a tragedy that has reached the season's midpoint and grows more epic by the day, but Howard has fallen short even of living up to his promise of a fresh start after that diva act in Orlando.

He has been more Shaquillian than he would ever admit – just without the one key element that can redeem a whole lot of everything: the utterly dominant play.

Despite Kobe Bryant shooting at a career-high level, Howard has mocked Bryant's shooting stats behind his back when he hasn't shot well, leaving Lakers teammates feeling awfully uncomfortable. Bryant has tried to connect with Howard, tried to support his free-throw failures with glowing words about how great Howard can be and tried most recently to accommodate that "inside-out" insistence by rising up to shoot and half-looking at the rim, half-looking for Howard.
Yet the only way Howard knows and wants is for him to be the go-to guy at both ends, and he made that clear again Monday night.
He said specifically after the Dec. 13 loss in New York that he likes the ball in the post, not via pick-and-roll plays – a logical reason he was so interested in the Lakers hiring Phil Jackson, the man who made Shaquille O'Neal a champion. On Monday night, Howard dwelled again on the individual negative after not getting many inside touches early on while Mike D'Antoni made an honest attempt to coach from the heart – benching Pau Gasol and investing anew in the pick-and-roll game the Lakers hired him to teach, however misguided that might be with the personnel as is.

Howard was already in a bad mood Monday from his unjust ejection in Toronto the day before. (The NBA rescinded his second technical foul, but replays do show Howard initiating the incident by locking up the arm of Toronto's Alan Anderson before Anderson jerked it free with a forearm raised toward Howard.)

Instead of channeling his frustrations into energy on the court in Chicago – remember that D'Antoni's mantra is: "Ball finds energy" – Howard settled for slow and didn't understand why that didn't work. Then he got annoyed with some Bulls who were playing harder than he was, committed some fourth-quarter frustration fouls and finished with eight points and a team-high four turnovers.

After the game he brought a stat sheet around the locker room to show some teammates and reporters how he got only five field-goal attempts ... a few minutes before the demoted Gasol spoke gracefully across the room about "not pointing fingers, owning up to our responsibilities, wanting to get out of this and having the pride necessary that it takes to utilize our talents and go beat the opponent – no matter who it is, no matter where we are."

If Howard was – as we all expected him to be – one of the top three players in the NBA, then you don't care so much who is the better team guy. The Lakers used to be good enough to win titles with Shaq and Kobe not getting along.

But Howard hasn't been that good – and hasn't updated his self-image to reflect the current state of his game or figure out how to help the team win. He had a reputation in Orlando for always blaming others, and his comments after this game about his shot total showed he's still operating from the same manual – even as he also spouted clichés about how "we've just got to find a way to stick together."

Gasol would never say so, but he has been banished to the bench also because Howard hasn't lived up to his end of the deal. The original concept for the twin towers finally working was that Howard was a far more athletic, active big man than Andrew Bynum, meaning Gasol's lesser athleticism and activity wouldn't be as problematic. As Howard has failed to be the above-the-rim freak – or even the high-motor defensive presence – that he was before April back surgery, a sore-legged Gasol has been left exposed and ridiculed.

O'Neal used to complain that the big dog had to fed if you wanted him to guard the yard. O'Neal used to offer cryptic complaints to reporters about the team needing "to play the right way" – the very same words Howard used late Monday night.

And O'Neal eventually got sent away from the Lakers because all the selfishness just didn't work anymore with Bryant, who certainly can be a handful himself but at least inspires teammates through his work ethic and will to win.

Both Bryant and Steve Nash have tried without success to sell Howard on just going hard – letting his limitations reveal themselves instead of conceding in advance. And the coach? Whereas Jackson has the stature and confidence to call out any player at any time, D'Antoni has been unwilling to criticize Howard – painfully aware that when D'Antoni tried to make Carmelo Anthony modify his attitude in New York last year, the Knicks swiftly chose the player over the coach. (As did the Orlando Magic, with Howard over Stan Van Gundy.)

The Lakers entered the season with zero intention of parting ways with Howard, but they would be fools not to be rethinking at this point. You can't ignore half a season of hard proof that Howard hasn't learned a thing about being a winner from all the very accomplished people around him in Lakerland.

As far as his free-agency power goes, Howard might not even know if he's coming or going – the same uncertainty and insecurity that enveloped Orlando.

He has indicated publicly he likes it here.

But leaving would jibe much more with the gimme-my-toy attitude where he only wants a team that will play his game, his way ... with his excuses.


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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:16 AM

to be fair Brown didnt have a full training camp

Full successful training camp = means the entire roster is healthy & participating in practice & preseason games together. Not 1-2 of the starting 5 out there & rest reserves.


Good point, forgot we were missing Dwight.

Still, 0-8 is pretty inexcusable.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:20 AM

Lakers are going to trade anyone except Kobe and Howard. Period. Trading howard is stupid.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:24 AM

Rael Deal and Fido talk about the system which is flawed. But where in the world is it okay to not allow a 17 year veteran to rest.

even LeBron and Durant rest in the 2nd half...

I mean everyone though Mike Brown had BAd rotations and over-worked his stars but I knew going in that D'Antoni was just as bad if not worse.


When I saw Kobe give his all to tie us up, I though , okay, can our bench keep it close for 5 or so minutes. Guess what we did, with Kobe doing nothing positive to contribute, because he had ZERO energy.

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:24 AM

But what assets would other teams offer to us for this role-player center?

Edited by Nak, January 22, 2013 - 10:25 AM.


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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:28 AM

Rael Deal and Fido talk about the system which is flawed. But where in the world is it okay to not allow a 17 year veteran to rest.

even LeBron and Durant rest in the 2nd half...

I mean everyone though Mike Brown had BAd rotations and over-worked his stars but I knew going in that D'Antoni was just as bad if not worse.


When I saw Kobe give his all to tie us up, I though , okay, can our bench keep it close for 5 or so minutes. Guess what we did, with Kobe doing nothing positive to contribute, because he had ZERO energy.


No one is saying that playing Kobe a lot of minutes is okay. There's a lot screwed up with our situation right now:

- Flawed system

- Stars playing too many minutes

- Zero defensive direction

- Bad rotations

- Ousting one of our better players instead of adjusting the system

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Posted January 22, 2013 - 10:34 AM

Rael Deal and Fido talk about the system which is flawed. But where in the world is it okay to not allow a 17 year veteran to rest.

even LeBron and Durant rest in the 2nd half...

I mean everyone though Mike Brown had BAd rotations and over-worked his stars but I knew going in that D'Antoni was just as bad if not worse.


When I saw Kobe give his all to tie us up, I though , okay, can our bench keep it close for 5 or so minutes. Guess what we did, with Kobe doing nothing positive to contribute, because he had ZERO energy.

Lebron and Durant both have players on their team that can get a good (40%) shot off from anywhere on the floor that.

Who on the lakers can u say that can do that other than Kobe?




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