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[Majesty]

The Lakers would pull off a trade for Josh Smith and Rudy Gay in a package deal before they'd let Dwight walk. That or take Aldridge from Portland.

[Windu]

dumbass

[JasonWll]

Dwight is going nowhere... money talks!

[DanishLakerFan]

In the other topic, you talk about one-dimensional players. Most shooters ARE just that...and a great deal of shooters are also poor defenders (Novak, Korver, Morrow, Gibson, Allen, Dunleavy, Martin, Fredette, Lamb, Calderon, Mason, Gordon, Douglas, Mills, Miller, Telfair...the list goes on). It's tougher to find a Jared Dudley, or a Shane Battier or Raja Bell (who are now over the hill and aren't great defensively).

The fact is, both Nash and D'Antoni are also one-dimensional...Nash in regards to the type of system he can play in, and D'Antoni in regards to the type of system he can coach.

When we got Nash, I made it clear that we could not run this offense. He would have to adjust...to throw less assists, BUT learn to play off of our two superstars as our absolute best shooter (50/40/90). He didn't stay healthy...and by the time he found his way back on the court, Mike D'Antoni was waiting on the bench, big grin and all, ready to run an offense that forced THREE of our best players (Kobe, Dwight and Gasol) to change for ONE of ours...who is also the oldest of the bunch.

Big mistake, that we made, and it will continue to cripple us.

So what is the solution at this point. Keep the roster intact and hope for a late push. Trade Pau? Dwight? Nash?

[gque24]

u keep D12 no matter what!

Trade Pau, MWP, Jamison, & Nash

Change the old slow man culture & get young athletes & spot up/ catch & shoot players.

[Windu]

u keep D12 no matter what!

Trade Pau, MWP, Jamison, Ebanks, Blake, Duhon, Morris

fixed

[gque24]

fixed

Nash is not helping this team at all = I meant NAsh!

Edited by gque24, January 22, 2013 - 06:50 AM.

[Windu]

That's because he has a [expletive]ty head coach

Nash needs more shots

[gque24]

That's because he has a [expletive]ty head coach

Nash needs more shots

Nash has to take more shots. It aint about him needing more shots. he has the ball in his hands damn near 16 secs of the clock so he got plenty of ops to shoot = but he rather do his over dribbling into a turnover or waste the majority of the clock & throw it to Kobe for a terrible look. We need a dynamic athletic guard that can score & put pressure on opposing team. Nash cant do this. Without any shooters NAsh hurts this team more than he helps them. Turnovers maybe down overall for the team but we are losing regardless

[Windu]

Nash shouldn't have to take more shots with the talent around him. Get rid of Mike D'Antoni and get rid of Pau Gasol and you will see positive changes with this team.

I would love to see him shoot more but as a PG I'd rather him get the offense going.

Edited by Windu, January 22, 2013 - 07:09 AM.

[SportyIntellectual]

Listen to Stephen A. backpeddlin' like a mofo saying that Howard should be traded.

What can you get for him??

[gque24]

^^Hey I hear you but who is he supposed to get the offense going for? No1 knows how to score except Kobe & D12. So unless guys start to play smart & look to actually make shots when they take them = Nash is better off gunning every game & eventually that will free up ops for others. Right now that bullsheet spread 4 = is a joke & does nothing!

[Majesty]

Sad thing is, Mike Brown had the right idea. He said that the only way this team worked was with a hybrid of different offenses. He was right. He had us run 4 out 1 in when Dwight was surrounded by a spread lineup. That was right. He wanted Nash to expand his playstyle beyond JUST pick and roll and now we see the problem with Nash in JUST one dimension. He wanted to hybrid pick and roll, some princeton, some 4 out 1 in AND some triangle(primarly for Kobe and Pau) which is pretty much what people are saying we need now and was on the verge of simplifying the offense down a bit to more and being less 'hands on' as per Kobe's words. The Lakers got rid of Mike Brown at the wrong time when the team was without Nash and counted on Nash's familiarity with D'antoni to matter more in the long run than what Brown was intending to use him for which actually ultimately COUld have been better for him. But they were wrong, because it's that ONE dimension that Stev e Nash initially shied away from(because he KNEW just that one dimension wouldn't work with THIS team, as did Brown) but no one listened. And now it's too late. Nash has to change his style.

Dwight is gonna have to stop turning over the ball when he gets his touches.

[gque24]

^^The refs are gonna have to stop cheating him as well! Some of those turnovers from post moves are fouls that are uncalled. When he gets frustrated thats when the dumb plays follow imediately & put Lakers even futher behind the 8 ball.

[Windu]

Sad thing is, Mike Brown had the right idea.

No

[Majesty]

No

Running triangle plays for Kobe and Pau was right. Running 4 out 1 in with Dwight(especially when Meeks was in) was the right idea. And actually having Kobe and Dwight set up Nash for shots(which Nash was still getting used to) was right. Where he was wrong was putting in too much Princeton and playing Ebanks over Meeks and basically overcoaching and overcomplicating things. But his 'basic' idea of running 4 out 1 in with dwight, triangle with kobe and pau, and having Kobe and Dwight setting up Nash were all on point. Because honestly those are pretty much the 3 offenses we'd have to run to get the best out of everyone. Dwight is best in a 4 out 1 in scenario to feed Meeks, Kobe, Nash. Kobe and Pau running triangle here and there. Nash expanding his game beyond pick and roll. If D'antoni just broke down that to its simplest, like Bernie did we'd have less problems. But nope.

[alec613]

The Brooklyn Nets are preparing to make another run at Dwight Howard, according to a source.
-Jarrod Rudoplh

Not the best best source, but it's music to my ears nontheless

[Majesty]

Not the best best source, but it's music to my ears nontheless

More rumors that winning cures. Doubt he'd go there. Pau would be gone way before they let things get so bad that Dwight would want to leave.

And besides with the contract to Lopez what the heck would that eave them with? Sounds like BS to me

Edited by Majesty, January 22, 2013 - 08:14 AM.

[last stand 2.0]

Not the best best source, but it's music to my ears nontheless

And the lakers will laugh in their face and say no because the nets still have nothing to offer

[alec613]

If it's legit, WE probably don't want it to be a direct-deal, for we're just gonna end up with Lopez's monster contract

King wants a Love to Lakers, Dwight to BKN, and Lopez to Wolves apparently.

Don't like Love, but it's better than Lopez's contract. Personally, I'd prefer young talents and draft picks

Edited by alec613, January 22, 2013 - 08:16 AM.