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Who is the Lakers' defensive stopper? Who can be the Bruce Bowen of the Lakers?


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#1 DanishLakerFan

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Posted January 16, 2013 - 11:15 PM

Our offense isnt the problem (6th in offensive efficiency) but our defense sucks (17th).

I really think Micth K and the Buss' should do what they can to land a quality defender, someone who will get a chase-down block once in a while and a guy who will guard the other teams best player every night, whether it's CP3 or LBJ.
Look what Avery Bradley does for the Celtics, what Bledsoe does for the Clippers, Tony Allen for the Grizzlies, Paul George for the Pacers, Deng/Gibson for the Bulls, Ronnie Brewer, Imam Shumpert, Thabo, etc.

All teams have a guy like that. We dont. We have Metta who is 100 years old, and slow, and we have Kobe who really shouldn't have to be that guy as well as score 30ppg.

Who can we get????

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Posted January 16, 2013 - 11:17 PM

This is what Avery Bradley does...

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Posted January 16, 2013 - 11:30 PM

This is what Avery Bradley does...

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Nope, not really. This is what he does:
https://www.youtube....h?v=D2ZO3-Iq-t4

and this:
http://espn.go.com/n...itches-deep-cut

I know he's been injured but he just returned and he is just as effective as before the injury.

Edited by DanishLakerFan, January 16, 2013 - 11:32 PM.


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Posted January 16, 2013 - 11:36 PM

Nope, not really. This is what he does:
https://www.youtube....h?v=D2ZO3-Iq-t4

and this:
http://espn.go.com/n...itches-deep-cut

I know he's been injured but he just returned and he is just as effective as before the injury.

I know that defense is what this team needs, and I agree that a player like Thabo would help this team. But there also has to be a cohesive team defense. Guys like Thabo make it more difficult for the great players to score, but it is the team defense that tries to contain the fire.

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Posted January 16, 2013 - 11:43 PM

I know that defense is what this team needs, and I agree that a player like Thabo would help this team. But there also has to be a cohesive team defense. Guys like Thabo make it more difficult for the great players to score, but it is the team defense that tries to contain the fire.

I agree, team defense is just as important, or more, than individual defense. But if we had a guy like Trevor Ariza for instance, we would be able to get a couple of stops because of his ability to read passing lanes, and we would have a guy who could put a lot of pressure on the other teams' best scorer.
Tony Allen is a guy who changes the whole culture of the team because of his intensity. We could use that.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 12:56 AM

Bradley harasses the guards full court so there's only like 12 seconds on the shot clock until they get into their set. Pretty much what Kobe Bryant has been doing these past 2 game. Kobe needs to teach Clark the footwork and angles to be a defensive stopper.

Edited by Phil Jackson, January 17, 2013 - 12:57 AM.


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Posted January 17, 2013 - 03:53 AM

Metta might be 100 years old, but is in great shape this season and has been playing his best basketball as a Laker.
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Posted January 17, 2013 - 04:14 AM

Metta might be 100 years old, but is in great shape this season and has been playing his best basketball as a Laker.


The problem with Metta is that he is a bit slow and he isn't really under control offensively. We need someone other than Kobe who can 1s and 2s.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 04:17 AM

If only we had Tony Allen... this team would be perfect.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 05:46 AM

The problem with Metta is that he is a bit slow and he isn't really under control offensively. We need someone other than Kobe who can 1s and 2s.


That's true... he's never really under control offensively, but never really out of control either... and his strength is a nightmare for opposing defenders...


If only we had Tony Allen... this team would be perfect.


This is something I'd consider...
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=amqce8n
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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:11 AM

Lakers do not have one
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Posted January 17, 2013 - 06:59 AM

Metta might be 100 years old, but is in great shape this season and has been playing his best basketball as a Laker.


Metta has been playing his best basketball since 2010 offensively, because he really sucks on D.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 07:34 AM

Metta has been playing his best basketball since 2010 offensively, because he really sucks on D.


Top-10 (#9) in steals with only 8 young guards ahead of him!!!
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Posted January 17, 2013 - 08:32 AM

Top-10 (#9) in steals with only 8 young guards ahead of him!!!

Defense is way more than steals.....

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:18 AM

Kobe, we just are asking him to do too much at this point.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:23 AM

Kobe, we just are asking him to do too much at this point.

Exactly. But it's not just that Kobe is capable of playing defense. It's about getting a guy who will get under the skin of the opponents, get a chase-down block that knocks the other guy on his ass once in a while and just playing nasty, need-stitches-type of defense.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:27 AM

Exactly. But it's not just that Kobe is capable of playing defense. It's about getting a guy who will get under the skin of the opponents, get a chase-down block that knocks the other guy on his ass once in a while and just playing nasty, need-stitches-type of defense.


We don't necessarily need that. Dwight Howard is a 3x DPOY after all. What we need is a defensive scheme designed to funnel players to Howard and make use of that anchor. That's what the 2008 Celtics did to be very successful. They were a team with a lot of veterans but just played high IQ defense and used Garnett well.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:28 AM

if we can develop earl clark or ebanks, or even morris the right way, then they could be our stoppers

Edited by Twenty_Four, January 17, 2013 - 09:28 AM.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:31 AM

Defense is way more than steals.....


Of course it is...
I just though that numbers might help... 'cause someone who says "he really sucks on D" obviously doesn't watch the games!

Defense is about this!


Edited by JasonWll, January 17, 2013 - 10:03 AM.

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Posted January 17, 2013 - 09:38 AM

The past 2 games it's been Kobe.




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