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[Warren2ThaG]

40,000/10,000/10,000 by end of career, he's already half on Nash assists.

[bigvee]

I don't think LeBron's body will last him long enough to get there

[bigfetz]

I don't think LeBron's body will last him long enough to get there

Thats the big indicator. Though he really has never had a bad injury from what I can recall so he's got a good chance.

[MrKnowItAll]

He needs athleticism. Most of the stuff he does on offense and defense is due to his quickness, strength, core, and his jumping ability. Don't get me wrong, he has a lot of skill. But he his still doesnt have a consistent jumper. And I've never seen a basketball that gets more nervous than this guy, he tries so hard to hide it, but to people that know basketball, it shows in his face and in his game in clutch situations.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

He needs athleticism. Most of the stuff he does on offense and defense is due to his quickness, strength, core, and his jumping ability. Don't get me wrong, he has a lot of skill. But he his still doesnt have a consistent jumper.And I've never seen a basketball that gets more nervous than this guy, he tries so hard to hide it, but to people that know basketball, it shows in his face and in his game in clutch situations.

That's BS and you know it. I'm no LeBron fan by any means, but the guy obviously has a consistent jumper. He shoots 40 percent from 3 and you can't do that if you aren't a consistent jump shooter. As for the clutch thing that's also BS. LeBron used to fold, but not anymore. He had a phenomenal Finals which is exactly why Miami won.

[Cj2008nw]

That's BS and you know it. I'm no LeBron fan by any means, but the guy obviously has a consistent jumper. He shoots 40 percent from 3 and you can't do that if you aren't a consistent jump shooter. As for the clutch thing that's also BS. LeBron used to fold, but not anymore. He had a phenomenal Finals which is exactly why Miami won.

The only reason his percentage is high because he doesn't take many 3s

[androsays]

The only reason his percentage is high because he doesn't take many 3s

Let me begin this post by saying that no way is Lebron even close to being in Larry Byrd's stratosphere as a shooter...

But lets look at the following:

Lebron is a career 33% 3pt shooter, but has trended upwards consistently since 2009-2010 from 33% to 36% to this year's 40%. Now keep in mind that there's still a lot of the season to go and it may normalize, but the upward trend is indicative of his drastic improvement.

This year, LBJ is making 40% of his 3.3 attempts, which is his 3rd lowest attempts in his 10 year career. Call it efficiency or whatever you want, but if it's one thing... it's smart basketball that he's recognizing his strengths (bullying physically inferior opponents in the post and of course the fast-break transition game) and using it consistently.

Now onto Larry Byrd: 3.3 3pt attempts/game is his career high, and he only tries <3 3pt/game 2 other times in his career (in comparison to LBJ who has shot upwards of 3 3pt a game 8 out of his 10 years in the league, 5 of which he tries >4 3pt/game). In those years where Larry shot more then 3 3pt/game, his 3pt percentages were 38%, 41%, and 40%. Larry is a career 37% 3pt shooter, but has career averages of only 1.9 3pt attempted a game.

But why is it that Larry is considered one of the greatest in-game shooters the league has seen?

I can answer that myself, dude was cold-blooded and consistently made timely 3s. That and him winning the 3pt contest 3 times in a row... and like I said, LBJ is NO WHERE CLOSE to being the shooter Larry was, but to say that the only reason LBJ is shooting a high 3pt percentage is cause of the number of his attempts is ridiculous.

Edited by androsays, January 15, 2013 - 09:21 AM.

[LikeABosh]

About to be the youngest to reach 20k tomorrow

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

The only reason his percentage is high because he doesn't take many 3s

That's not true. He takes over 3 a game.

[RayRay]

k theres no way in hell any of you would feel comfortable having Lebron shoot a mid range jumper with the game on the line.
Id pick Ray Allen or even Wade before I would chose Bron.
His mid range game is far from superior.

Only way I would want Bron to have the ball at the end of a game is if he drove to the hoop and draws a foul.

Edited by RayRay, January 15, 2013 - 11:08 AM.

[androsays]

with the clock winding down and a chance to win, i would want the ball in LBJs hands. whether to take the last shot or to create for others.

if this was 2-3 years ago, i would've wanted it in Wade's hands, but the dude is not the same this year

[Makaveli]

About to be the youngest to reach 20k tomorrow

And KD will be right behind him. On the topic, LBJ wont get anywhere near 40k career points.

[RayRay]

with the clock winding down and a chance to win, i would want the ball in LBJs hands. whether to take the last shot or to create for others.

if this was 2-3 years ago, i would've wanted it in Wade's hands, but the dude is not the same this year

So would I, just to create for others or drive, not to shoot a mid range jumper. hell no.

[reryo]

Can't see Lebron approaching the 40k points mark if he declines in athleticism, that will limit his ability to drive to the paint. In addition, he is beginning to embrace the playmaker role.


EDIT: Durant however, may have a better chance if he becomes effective in the post and improves his back-to-the-basket game.

Edited by reryo, January 15, 2013 - 12:31 PM.

[Cj2008nw]

Lebron has only attempted 118 3's for this season while only making 48 and is shooting 40
Kobe on the other hand has attempted 223 and has made 80 of them and is shooting 36 percent

Considering the kinds of shots Kobe makes and the Wide open shots Lebron takes with their attempts you could say Kobe is a better 3 point shooter based on his 36 percent with the difficulty factor put into place

[LikeABosh]

And KD will be right behind him. On the topic, LBJ wont get anywhere near 40k career points.

I don't think so. LeBron came straight out of HS so he has the extra year on KD.

[Nego]

LBj would have to be extremely healthy well into his 30's, his game depends a lot on speed which IMO will be the first thing to start declining as he ages I doubt he reaches 40k points

[Carpe Diem]

More like 26-31k points.

[bigfetz]

Thing its really tough when you get into your 30's to keep up those stats. I believe kobe has the record for best PPG average at the in there 17th season and its by a wide margin. I do think MJ would have been there if he haden't been off some of those seasons. Though he is close to breaking 20,000 so he may not have to have ricicouls stats late in his carrear to break the all time scoring record.

Well heres some math though. Lets say for the next 8 seasons he gets 25 PPG(assuming his ppg lowers in his early 30's) and he plays he misses about 20 games due to injurys/other in those seasons. That would mean he would get about 15,900 points in 8 seasons.

Now lets say he ends the season with about 21,000 points that means he will have 36,900 or 37,000 by the end of his 17th season.

Basically if he can keep up what he has been doing for years with just a 25 PPG for the next 8 seasons he can easily get the title in his 18th season. Would only have to have a 17 PPG average to do so in that 18th season.

It all depends if he can stay healthy though. He can even get worse through the years and still get it.