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#121 MyJohnsonIsMagic

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 07:29 AM

I didn't read any post in this thread but the OP deserves to be straight smacked for this one


Great minds think alike (said this earlier lol)

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 11:27 AM

In 20 games this year Kobe Bryant has scored 30 points or more.

In those 20 games the Los Angeles Lakers are 6-14.

This is the truth.

#123 MyJohnsonIsMagic

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 11:42 AM

Can we ban this guy already?

All he does is troll and bump up his retarded thread.

I mean seriously mods, did he make one attempt to reply to any of your counter-arguments or points?

Doesn't it piss you off that you sit there and waste time replying to his stupid 'truth' when hes only
going to ignore what you have to say and do nothing but behave like a broken troll record?

Get him the [expletive] out of here, PLEASE.

Edited by MyJohnsonIsMagic, January 05, 2013 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted January 05, 2013 - 11:48 AM

everyone just stop replying to the thread

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 12:37 PM

I know there are other problems too. However the fact that the Lakers are 6-14 when Kobe scores 30 or more has to hold some weight. You talk about me ignoring counter arguments, but most people here just want to gloss over this fact, not my opinion but fact.

I would rather not argue with anyone, it doesn't make me happy and generally feels like a waste of time where nothing is gained. However the FACT remains in the 20 games Kobe has scored more than 30 points his TEAM is 6-14, this means something.

Kobe Bryant is a phenomenal individual player, no question about it. I wish he were a better team mate. Karl Malone would probably agree.

Edited by jasonC, January 05, 2013 - 12:38 PM.


#126 MyJohnsonIsMagic

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 12:39 PM

everyone just stop replying to the thread


Even if we were all to stop replying this thread, its here to stay as long as that moron keeps bumping it up.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 12:47 PM

YOU ARE NOT STATING FACTS YOU MORON.

If you weren't so stupid you would of replied to all those that countered your argument with an intelligent counter-argument
instead of ignoring them.

In a nutshell this is what your argument is and looks like:

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 12:48 PM

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 01:18 PM

Are you trying to tell me that "If Kobe could pull himself out of alpha-dog mode than the team as a whole would be better" is a false statement? Judging by their record when he goes into "I'm just going to shoot it all night, no matter what" mode the team has a terrible winning percentage. Why does this not matter ? Why is this insignificant? Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Nash needs to shoot more, Dwight needs to make free throws and Kobe needs to be a decent team mate.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 01:30 PM

Are you trying to tell me that "If Kobe could pull himself out of alpha-dog mode than the team as a whole would be better" is a false statement? Judging by their record when he goes into "I'm just going to shoot it all night, no matter what" mode the team has a terrible winning percentage. Why does this not matter ? Why is this insignificant? Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Nash needs to shoot more, Dwight needs to make free throws and Kobe needs to be a decent team mate.


Oh shut up, seriously.

You've been explained why your argument has no basis by several different people and you've completely ignored them all.

You've yet to reply to anyone's statements.

Instead, you keep spewing the same bull[expletive] over and over and over and over and over and over and over to the point where I wish someone hit you over the head with a shovel.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 01:47 PM

Let's see here. The next time Kobe scores 30 or more and takes twice as many shots as the guy who put up the second most FGA's does, let's see if the Lakers win. I'm guessing by the way history keeps repeating itself that they will most likely lose. You say that I keep repeating myself, well only when the Lakers keep repeating themselves. I am just telling you what is happening and you want to call me stupid for it, that's fine you are entitled to think whatever you wish, but pay attention to the next game where Kobe scores all the points and takes double the amount of shots that any team mate does. Let's see what happens. It's possible they will be 7-14 but I'm guessing that they will be 6-15.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 01:48 PM

Are you trying to tell me that "If Kobe could pull himself out of alpha-dog mode than the team as a whole would be better" is a false statement? Judging by their record when he goes into "I'm just going to shoot it all night, no matter what" mode the team has a terrible winning percentage. Why does this not matter ? Why is this insignificant? Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Nash needs to shoot more, Dwight needs to make free throws and Kobe needs to be a decent team mate.


I agree.

Kobe Bryant is not a shooting guard.

He's a center.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:13 PM

I'm guessing by the way history keeps repeating itself that they will most likely lose.


LOL

History repeating itself...

You are the one repeating yourself.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:14 PM

This is something someone brought to my attention not too long ago about Kobe and his affect on his team mates

Kobe calling out his team mates and having very bitter relationships with a lot of his team mates could be tearing the lakers inside out.

I don't think there are many players that have played with Kobe that said they enjoy playing with him at all. Every Ex Laker besides Fisher and Odom have had nothing but negative things to say when playing with Kobe.... and not wanting to play with someone can effect how they play as well...

Maybe that's why some games we come out playing with no heart... because players don't like playing with Kobe because of his attitude and how he treats his team mates... We really don't have players like Fisher or Odom to keep things under control in the Locker room anymore let alone to try to get everybody on the same page...

another thing that was brought to my attention from someone else is that when Kobe won.. It was always with Phil... and Phil came up with a system that would eliminate or cover up majority of everybody's weaknesses

but it's just a thought though and what T.I. said on First Take about being a Leader... I agreed with and Kobe isn't being the best leader he should be for this team

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:25 PM

Smush Parker said he hated playing with Kobe.

Kobe made that guy look like a pretty good point guard.

I think you are wrong.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:28 PM

Smush Parker said he hated playing with Kobe.

Kobe made that guy look like a pretty good point guard.

I think you are wrong.


Bynum, Shaq, and Matt Barnes didn't like playing with Kobe either and I think a lot of other players didn't like playing with him either but didn't get the media involved... Watching that Clippers game last night and seeing a lot of our old players that used to wear Lakers jerseys out there playing with a chip on their shoulder says a lot to me

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:31 PM

Bynum, Shaq, and Matt Barnes didn't like playing with Kobe either and I think a lot of other players didn't like playing with him either but didn't get the media involved... Watching that Clippers game last night and seeing a lot of our old players that used to wear Lakers jerseys out there playing with a chip on their shoulder says a lot to me


seems like you'd enjoy posting here better

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:32 PM

This is something someone brought to my attention not too long ago about Kobe and his affect on his team mates

Kobe calling out his team mates and having very bitter relationships with a lot of his team mates could be tearing the lakers inside out.

I don't think there are many players that have played with Kobe that said they enjoy playing with him at all. Every Ex Laker besides Fisher and Odom have had nothing but negative things to say when playing with Kobe.... and not wanting to play with someone can effect how they play as well...

Maybe that's why some games we come out playing with no heart... because players don't like playing with Kobe because of his attitude and how he treats his team mates... We really don't have players like Fisher or Odom to keep things under control in the Locker room anymore let alone to try to get everybody on the same page...

another thing that was brought to my attention from someone else is that when Kobe won.. It was always with Phil... and Phil came up with a system that would eliminate or cover up majority of everybody's weaknesses

but it's just a thought though and what T.I. said on First Take about being a Leader... I agreed with and Kobe isn't being the best leader he should be for this team



Very interesting, makes a lot of sense to me.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:57 PM

Watching that Clippers game last night and seeing a lot of our old players that used to wear Lakers jerseys out there playing with a chip on their shoulder says a lot to me


The Clippers run the floor well and play very good off CP3 man.

You are making something out of nothing and feeding the troll.

Nash can't attack the rim like he used to, so one aspect of his playmaking is missing.

Go back and watch MVP Nash and then come back and look at Lakers Nash.

MVP Nash made the D collapse on ALOT.

Lakers Nash, not so much, father time is undefeated.

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Posted January 05, 2013 - 02:59 PM

OP has contributed nothing in this topic, it's the same circular logic being spouted over and over again while completely ignoring anything to the contrary. I've just reviewed every page through this topic and I don't want to deal with this for another dozen pages. Bring an actual argument and/or address the opposing side or don't bother posting at all.




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