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#21 Projekt

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Posted December 31, 2012 - 01:24 AM

How can anyone look back and question Jim's decision on Lamar Odom?

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Posted December 31, 2012 - 06:49 AM

Think of the Lakers franchise as a cruise ship.

Jerry owns the ship, Mitch is the Captain and Jim is the bosses man child who thinks he can Captain a ship.

Just because you can steer a ship in a calm sea doesn't mean you should be behind the helm in a perfect storm.

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Posted December 31, 2012 - 08:59 AM

jim has done a good job imo. some of the reasons already explained by the others.

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Posted December 31, 2012 - 07:39 PM

What has Jim actually done to get this criticism.
Owners spend money. He isn't all out there like Mark Cuban or Jerry Jones. People have to grow up

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Posted December 31, 2012 - 10:45 PM

It was Jerry Buss's decision to go with D'Antoni instead of Phil Jackson.

Don't know why people keep ignoring this.

Because it wouldn't fit the agenda.
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Posted January 02, 2013 - 09:41 AM

Let the record speak for itself. The Jim Buss record ain't too good and our fantasy of a championship run in 2013 is just that---a fantasy!

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 10:00 AM

Jim Buss is not the GM. He is not the coach. He is not our star player.

He is an owner. Donald Sterling, for example, was a bad owner because he didn't spend money. Now he has. Jim Buss does the same. He has a more high profile coach on top of that and a highly respected GM.


Just because the Lakers aren't playing as a unit, are aging, have dealt with injuries, and had to play in 2-3 different systems, doesn't mean Jim Buss is the cause of this.

He got rid of Bynum( who hasn't played) and got Howard( who is recovering).

Sessions turned into Nash.

Jamison was brought in for chump change. He addressed our main weaknesses, but we started off horribly with Mike Brown and now we have to try and make up for that.

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 10:13 AM

Jim Buss is not the problem at all. He's done a terrific job so far.

One thing i will say, though. While the front office have been good at getting the big names, they have been awfull at getting roleplayers.
We have passed or missed the opportunity on a handfull of players this season, who could have helped.
Pietrus, Barbosa, Ronnie Brewer and Delonte West just to name a few.

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 10:38 AM

What team has the best stars AND role players? We got Jamison and Meeks to add to Metta and Hill and you can't really can't complain about those 4

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 10:45 AM

What team has the best stars AND role players? We got Jamison and Meeks to add to Metta and Hill and you can't really can't complain about those 4


Barbosa and Delonte could both have helped a lot and we could have signed them. But we passed on the chance.

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 10:51 AM

At this point..Duhon,Meeks is equal enough to Barbosa and West

we would have been marginally better...but not significantly. I think you can play Kobe with Meeks down the stretch9 like Sasha) more than LB or Delonte.

I like his youth and character also

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 02:57 PM

Ask Phil Jackson what he thinks of Jim Buss? or Brian Shaw? or Matt Barnes? or Bynum? or Mike Brown? or Kurt Rambis? or James Wothy? or Magic Johnson? or Mitch Kupchak? or Jeannie Buss? or Derek Fisher? or Lamar Odom? For anyone out there who doesn't believe his incompetent imrprint is all over the Laker demise perhaps you might read some literature about organizational psychology. Truth be told the owner, the guy at the top, his values, principle,s and values, and lack thereof trickle down into every level ofthe organization and effect the product on the court or field. As the Lakers again fall under .500 I can't believe Laker nation isn't crying for Jim Buss to shut up, sit down, and let someone with credibility and integrity call the shots.

With Buss at the helm, Kobe won't win another ring. Deal with it.

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 03:12 PM

I think it still has yet to be seen. Its too early to tell but I do remember Dr. phil stating that buss wanted the offense to be run through bynum instead of pau. Which in turn basically caused us an embarrassing 2nd round exit in the playoffs. Mike brown was a huge failure and right now dantoni doesnt seem to be much better. Would phil of been able to turn this squad around? We will never know. Is it the decisions of buss the ultimate cause of such an inconsistent team? Did we as fans buy into what the rest of the media is expecting and are we expecting way too much way too fast? Are we putting the lakers on the miami heat timeline and expecting a 1st year finals appearance? Im not asking any rhetorical questions here I really want to know because right now it doesnt look like any personale moves are going to make this team consistent. I dont know to be honest and Im just as frustrated as the rest of you. Nash has been back for a few games but to be honest I do think the lakers need time to get it right. Who knows though

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 08:39 PM

Ask Phil Jackson what he thinks of Jim Buss? or Brian Shaw? or Matt Barnes? or Bynum? or Mike Brown? or Kurt Rambis? or James Wothy? or Magic Johnson? or Mitch Kupchak? or Jeannie Buss? or Derek Fisher? or Lamar Odom? For anyone out there who doesn't believe his incompetent imrprint is all over the Laker demise perhaps you might read some literature about organizational psychology. Truth be told the owner, the guy at the top, his values, principle,s and values, and lack thereof trickle down into every level ofthe organization and effect the product on the court or field. As the Lakers again fall under .500 I can't believe Laker nation isn't crying for Jim Buss to shut up, sit down, and let someone with credibility and integrity call the shots.

With Buss at the helm, Kobe won't win another ring. Deal with it.


After his fifth ring, the likelihood of Kobe winning again was dropped exponentially. No longer in his prime, league has caught up ( and surpassed) the Lakers, younger legends like LeBron and Durant are in the fold and etc.

Jim Buss, gave us a glimmer of hope by upgrading PG,C, and 6 th man, as well as upgrading the bench overall

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Posted January 02, 2013 - 09:32 PM

Ask Phil Jackson what he thinks of Jim Buss? or Brian Shaw? or Matt Barnes? or Bynum? or Mike Brown? or Kurt Rambis? or James Wothy? or Magic Johnson? or Mitch Kupchak? or Jeannie Buss? or Derek Fisher? or Lamar Odom? For anyone out there who doesn't believe his incompetent imrprint is all over the Laker demise perhaps you might read some literature about organizational psychology. Truth be told the owner, the guy at the top, his values, principle,s and values, and lack thereof trickle down into every level ofthe organization and effect the product on the court or field. As the Lakers again fall under .500 I can't believe Laker nation isn't crying for Jim Buss to shut up, sit down, and let someone with credibility and integrity call the shots.

With Buss at the helm, Kobe won't win another ring. Deal with it.

Jim Buss was involved with getting Nash and Howard. Actions speak louder than words, no?

Inform me though — Since I don't have direct access to ask Jackson, Shaw, Barnes, Bynum, Brown, Rambis, Worthy, Johnson, Kupchak, Jeannie, Fisher, or Odom — What specific grievances has Jim Buss put the Lakers through?

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Posted January 04, 2013 - 03:46 PM

What a scuzz Jim Buss is becoming. Sure could have been a happy family if papa Buss made Jeanie the power and jim boythe lackey. What might have been---happy Phil and Jeannie. A coach perfectly suited to and old and slow team. Jim Buss, go away.

Was Phil passed over for the Lakers position due to his relationship with Jim Buss’ sister Jeanie? We may never get the answer to that question, but I can’t help but think it clearly had something to do with it. Despite what we were told by the Laker’s organization, Jackson’s system seemed to be a much better fit for the old and slow Lakers than Mike D’Antoni’s.
In the meantime, rumors continue to persist that Phil may be interested in the Net’s head coaching vacancy. It remains to be seen, but I wish the best for the happy couple. Still, I can’t help but feel that Phil and Jeanie’s wedding may be a bit awkward with Jim Buss around.




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