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[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Kobe and shaq both averaged 30

This team is much different. Those teams didn't have two All Stars after Kobe and Shaq like they do know with Gasol and Nash. There's not enough shots to go around to have two 30 ppg scorers.

[L.A.K.E.R]

People really think he's trying to motivate Howard? This is Shaquille O'Neal, one of the pettiest superstars in NBA history. He's burnt bridges with almost every team he's suited up for and he's left on bad terms with almost every high profile teammate he's been paired with.

He's not here to motivate Howard, that's the last thing he'd ever do. He's not some Dr. J taking young players under his wing. This all just Shaq vying for attention like he did throughout his entire career.

[Majesty]

This team is much different. Those teams didn't have two All Stars after Kobe and Shaq like they do know with Gasol and Nash. There's not enough shots to go around to have two 30 ppg scorers.

Well that has to do with how teams play Dwight as well.

Nash is going to get Dwight about 6 extra different and easier looks at the basket so Dwight averaging 10 more points per game because of Nash isn't out of the question.

And Kobe getting easier wide open shots might mean he doesn't have to score as much but with more opportunities he may score even more.

What made Shaq and Kobe so dominant was because if you focused on stopping one the other would start scorching you and they always had a connection between each other. If we look back to their second year as champions Shaq was dominant, and Kobe found him a lot of the time and could stifle his own offense for the benefit of the team and of Shaq. But if Shaq went out with foul trouble Kobe would go off for 40 because he could.

You had two players that could scorch you for 35+ if you left them alone. The Lakers right now don't have that. Only Kobe can really do that. Dwight isn't gonna go out there and scorch a team for 30 if they leave him alone. That's now how he plays. Nash is the catalyst that can cause that to happen but it's from the benefit of him and Howard in the pick and roll not because Howard is gonna take the "they can't stop me" initiative and dominate another team just cause he can.

That was something both Shaq AND Kobe could do on any given night which is why our team was so dangerous then.

[Hollywood]

Just wondering Whens his jersey being retired

[Carpe Diem]

Howard should demand the ball more and get UP to 25. ill be fine for him to avg 21-24 tho

[The Next Stig]

Howard should demand the ball more and get UP to 25. ill be fine for him to avg 21-24 tho

he should average that with nash back..unless he passes the ball to kobe all the time.

[PhillyLaker24]

This team is much different. Those teams didn't have two All Stars after Kobe and Shaq like they do know with Gasol and Nash. There's not enough shots to go around to have two 30 ppg scorers.

At this point wouldnt call nash an all star any more, and at this rate Pau neither. I do agree that Dwight wont avg 30 but I say 25 is a good chance and there is more than enough shots for kobe to avg around his 28 and dwight to avg 25 with other players getting more than enough touches.

[Lords of the Rings]

Shaq should have stayed in shape and we would have another Ring or 2

D12 is not a 30 point Center

But he is a domminant Defensive player and Rebounder

[Majesty]

Shaq should have stayed in shape and we would have another Ring or 2

D12 is not a 30 point Center

But he is a domminant Defensive player and Rebounder

he also has more dedication than Shaq.

Remember Shaq after that first championship always came in to camp out of shape after that? That's where the issues with him and Kobe started. Kobe came into the next season wanting something to prove and worked his butt off in the off season and Shaq came in out of shape that year and every other year(except his first in Miami) and eventually it came back to bite him. While Kobe is.. well Kobe

[hotpocket]

Shaq just tries 2 motivate Howard. People look at it as him talkin down on em or hatin on em but that's not the case at all. Shaq will always root 4 the Lakers. He want s 2 see then succeed. Dwight just ain't gettin what shaq is sayin 2 him. If he stops thinkin shaq is hatin on em n actually listens n digest what he's sayin we might see a new Howard out there

I think he's just insecure.

And now that he has a commentating TV spot, we all get to hear about it.

[noknife]

I would trade 3 Howard's for one Shaq. Not even close.

[LakeShow805]

I would trade 3 Howard's for one Shaq. Not even close.

I wouldn't ......3 Howards....good luck scoring on that team.

[Trilapino]

I would trade any center for Shaq at his prime.

[Trilapino]

he also has more dedication than Shaq.

Remember Shaq after that first championship always came in to camp out of shape after that? That's where the issues with him and Kobe started. Kobe came into the next season wanting something to prove and worked his butt off in the off season and Shaq came in out of shape that year and every other year(except his first in Miami) and eventually it came back to bite him. While Kobe is.. well Kobe

I thought it didnt really matter, he was still a force in the paint that nobody could stop and he still delivered results which really matters the most.

[LakeShow805]

I would trade any center for Shaq at his prime.

lol...Shaq isn't even the best center in history

Edited by LakeShow805, December 26, 2012 - 03:04 PM.

[West Coast]

I won't bad mouth Shaq as a player because the guy was as dominant as they come in the NBA.

But Shaq as a retired player and analyst? Yeah he sucks.

[lakersince75]

Dwight getting 30 PPG is impossible on this team. He doesn't really control that. 30 ppg means Kobe, Nash and D'Antoni would have to design it that way. With Kobe being Kobe, Metta jacking up 3's and D'antoni's system, I'd settle for 22 and 13. I understand what Shaq is saying but even he wouldn't have averaged 30 in this situation. As a matter of fact at 7'1" and 325lbs in his prime Shaq should have averaged 40 and 20 back in the day. Im not sure if he even did it once

[Trilapino]

lol...Shaq isn't even the best center in history

lol.....Never said he was the best center in history.