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I'm pretty sure this has already been posted...but what about Gasol for Stoudemire?


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#1 zmarchbank

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:19 PM

Plus whatever fillers it would take to make it work.

We're not getting much of a defensive contribution from Gasol anymore anyway, so the difference between him and Stoudemire wouldn't hurt the team much IMO. Reuniting him with the player and coach he's had the most success with. He's also faster and can run the court better than Gasol.

The way I see it:

Scoring: Stoudemire
Rebounding: Gasol (but with Hill and Dwight we should be okay)
Defense: Wash
Speed/agility: Stoudemire
Injury: At this point, it's hard to say Gasol is much better off than Stoudemire. But simply because of Stoudemire's history, i'd have to give Gasol a slight edge.

I think he'd be a much better fit for our offense and wouldn't be much more, if any, of a defensive liability than a banged up Gasol.

From New York's perspective, Gasol is less of a ball-stopper and is less likely to mess up the great chemistry that they have going right now. He's a better traditional inside presence and can rebound and give them another post presence with Chandler. Pau has a much better post game than anyone the Knicks have right now. The Knicks have plenty of scorers and they don't need another hybrid type player. they could use the rebounding help with all the shots they jack up and the pace that they play.

At this point, with his skillset, I think Pau will slow the team down once Nash comes back and the offense is running like it should. Gasol is still great in some areas, but I think he's more suited for a slower-paced game (as we all know). I know Stoudemire has a max contract, so I imagine the contracts would at least be close to working out. I think this trade would be mutually beneficial. Thoughts?

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:27 PM

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:38 PM

No.
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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:39 PM

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:40 PM

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:41 PM

no, Pau > Ama're
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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:44 PM

No
 

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:48 PM

lol it seems to be a unanimous no so far. Can anyone give me some logical reasons why, at this point, Pau > Amar'e?

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:50 PM

lol it seems to be a unanimous no so far. Can anyone give me some logical reasons why, at this point, Pau > Amar'e?


Because you'd get a downgrade. For Pau you either get a better star that is an upgrade, or additional; bench pieces. Getting Amar'e is both a step backwards and does nothing for the team.

I would get Chris Bosh before I got Amar'e stoudamire.
 

I've always liked Steve Blake.

 


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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:51 PM

lol it seems to be a unanimous no so far. Can anyone give me some logical reasons why, at this point, Pau > Amar'e?

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 07:53 PM

Because you'd get a downgrade. For Pau you either get a better star that is an upgrade, or additional; bench pieces. Getting Amar'e is both a step backwards and does nothing for the team.

I would get Chris Bosh before I got Amar'e stoudamire.


I understand the reason people don't want him is because they think he's a downgrade from Pau, but what I'm asking is given the circumstances (Pau's lack of production and effort and the D'Antoni system), why is it such a sure thing that Stoudemire is a downgrade? Can anyone deny that he's better offensively than Pau? Especially with Nash running the P&R.

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 08:05 PM

I understand the reason people don't want him is because they think he's a downgrade from Pau, but what I'm asking is given the circumstances (Pau's lack of production and effort and the D'Antoni system), why is it such a sure thing that Stoudemire is a downgrade? Can anyone deny that he's better offensively than Pau? Especially with Nash running the P&R.


not with Dwight being primary center.
 

I've always liked Steve Blake.

 


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Posted December 14, 2012 - 08:10 PM

isn't Amare's contract a couple years longer? I'd rather have cap space soon

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 08:21 PM

Thing is amare may be a little better but his contract is much worse. His contract last a year more than paus and it will end up being 21.6 next year and 23.4 the year after that. So in no way would getting amare help this team. Were trying to lower payroll and getting some youth or multiple players for bench with pau.

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 08:40 PM

Amare has a horrible contract. Even if he is a tiny bit better, which I don't think he is but it is debatable, the chemistry with Kobe would not be there, alongside the fact that the dude can be just as weak defensively.

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 08:43 PM

Only if we get Shumpert or something.

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Posted December 14, 2012 - 09:06 PM

No.
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Posted December 14, 2012 - 09:20 PM

A lot of posters were saying yes when he was playing and we sucked, and now that we suck even worse than when he was here, posters are saying "No." If he comes back and we lose a couple of games people will being wanting him traded. It's a no win situation for the Great Pau Gasol, lol...

Edited by lakerfandude, December 14, 2012 - 09:21 PM.


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Posted December 14, 2012 - 09:46 PM

I have always said NO to Amare. His contract is cancerous, his knees are worse than Pau Gasol. His a player that relies on athleticism and that has lost it. No thank you. His defence is also worse than Pau Gasol.
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Posted December 14, 2012 - 09:50 PM

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