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#621 Busty Bluth

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:38 PM

He's not better than Kobe. Future wise it might but as for now it wouldn't. Love for pau or love for Nash would do something because he improves on them

We have to think about the future if this [expletive] continues.

Kobe will never be the future again.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:39 PM

They now have to go 41-19 to get 50 wins, which is usually the 8th seed in the West.

Reality is hitting hard right now. This team is in serious trouble.\

Most disappointing Laker team of all time? It is certainly angling that way.


Missing the playoffs would set a chain reaction that could kill the franchise for a minimum of 5 years

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:39 PM

They now have to go 41-19 to get 50 wins, which is usually the 8th seed in the West.

Reality is hitting hard right now. This team is in serious trouble.\

Most disappointing Laker team of all time? It is certainly angling that way.

41-19 isn't happening. Brutal when you put it that way.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:39 PM

with nash, we would have given up even more points


I doubt it. We gave up a majority of our points in the first half because of 16 turnovers. Irving would have done the same to Nash that he did to Duhon and to Morris. But we wouldn't have given up darn near 30 points off of turnovers while he was playing.

So we WOULDN'T have given up more points.

No one on the Lakers tonight had 5 assists. Think that changes with Nash? Turnovers too.

So you can't say that we'd give up more points when we wouldn't have turned over the ball 16 times in the first half with him.

It says the opposite.

41-19 isn't happening. Brutal when you put it that way.


Not out of reach. All really depends on when Nash comes back though.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:40 PM

have anyone ever thought about this like Melo & Amar'e. Maybe Kobe & Dwight just can't play together ?

Don't get me wrong, I want this to work, I love both players.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:41 PM

At least Kobe can still drop 40+

That's the only positive I took


Is that still considered a positive? lol

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:42 PM

hard to do when the team you built to win now has only 50% of the pieces you got :)

Like I said ALL YOU KNOW is that the Lakers aren't a playoff team when your first and 2nd options off the bench are Chris Duhon and Darius Morris.

Aside from that you don't know anything else.

This team wasn't "built to win now" with Morris being our bench point guard and Duhon starting.

So your logic is already flawed if you try to factor that in.

How is his logic flawed? This team still has the best two players on the court every night and we can't beat the 4-17 cavs. I do agree with you a little bit that Nash and Gasol aren't healthy, but still no excuse for this loss.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:42 PM

MDA is clueless.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:43 PM

I'm tired of some people saying they're encouraged they came back from a 15 point halftime deficit. Yeah... that's great, doesn't matter if your as inconsistent as the Lakers though. It was great that we didn't give up in the OKC game only to come home and lay an egg against the jazz... These guys just can't handle the pressure


There is no encouragement. I laughed when some acted pleased after the OKC game. We got torched in the 2Q and the Thunder chilled the last 24 minutes.

The Knicks will kill us on Thursday, as Kobe goes for 50.

The way things have been going, look for John Wall to get a prosthetic leg and lead the Wiz to a victory with an inspired effort on Friday night - a game I plan to attend.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:43 PM

It's not a positive that Kobe scores 40+, or even 30+.

Kobe shouldn't have to work that hard ina win or a loss. Kobe should be averaging around 20 a game at this point.

I like to be as positive as possible, but this team has issues I'm not so certain can be solved in time to save this season.

Very upsetting times.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:45 PM

I doubt it. We gave up a majority of our points in the first half because of 16 turnovers. Irving would have done the same to Nash that he did to Duhon and to Morris. But we wouldn't have given up darn near 30 points off of turnovers while he was playing.

So we WOULDN'T have given up more points.

No one on the Lakers tonight had 5 assists. Think that changes with Nash? Turnovers too.

So you can't say that we'd give up more points when we wouldn't have turned over the ball 16 times in the first half with him.

It says the opposite.


Nash is one of the worst defensive PGs of all time. Yes, our assists numbers would've been better but nash can only pass the ball to other guys...not make them execute the shot successfully.

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:45 PM

MDA breaking down.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:46 PM

There is no encouragement. I laughed when some acted pleased after the OKC game. We got torched in the 2Q and the Thunder chilled the last 24 minutes.

The Knicks will kill us on Thursday, as Kobe goes for 50.

The way things have been going, look for John Wall to get a prosthetic leg and lead the Wiz to a victory with an inspired effort on Friday night - a game I plan to attend.


Completely agree. People finding solace in losing to okc was ridiculous then and even more so now
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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:46 PM

lol D'antoni to a media person that says he doesn't focus on defense, when he had just said that he had been working defense with the players all day

D'antoni "You're starting to piss me off! Because you're saying things that aren't factual. . HELL YEAH we worked on defense!!! Worked on it all day! You're starting to piss me off! You asked me and I told you."

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:47 PM

It's not a positive that Kobe scores 40+, or even 30+.

Kobe shouldn't have to work that hard ina win or a loss. Kobe should be averaging around 20 a game at this point.

I like to be as positive as possible, but this team has issues I'm not so certain can be solved in time to save this season.

Very upsetting times.

I agree.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:47 PM

It's not a positive that Kobe scores 40+, or even 30+.

Kobe shouldn't have to work that hard ina win or a loss. Kobe should be averaging around 20 a game at this point.

I like to be as positive as possible, but this team has issues I'm not so certain can be solved in time to save this season.

Very upsetting times.


I said it as a joke.
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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:47 PM

Fu TWC for cutting off MDA on his rant.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:48 PM

They now have to go 41-19 to get 50 wins, which is usually the 8th seed in the West.



Right now, only 5 teams in the West are on a 50 win pace.


Minnesota, currently on pace for 41 wins, has the #8 seed.


A small blessing that the West has slipped from recent past.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:48 PM

Nash is one of the worst defensive PGs of all time. Yes, our assists numbers would've been better but nash can only pass the ball to other guys...not make them execute the shot successfully.


Like I said. Kyrie would have done the same to Nash that he did to Duhon and Morris.

But the difference is we don't turnover the ball 16 times. And THAT is where a lot of the first half points came from.

If you take away 10 of those turnovers from the first half do we win this game? Yes or no in your opinion. That's 24 of Cleveland's points by the way.

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Posted December 11, 2012 - 06:48 PM

Mitch is probably not mad at all. He knows he did everything he could and these idiots just arent performing
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