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#21 ace™

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:32 PM

The way I see is we have to expect either an effective Kobe on offense, or an effective Kobe on D.

Can't be both. Either he spends all his energy shutting his man down or he uses more of his energy on the offensive end. Which one do you want?

Dude has played way too much basketball since 1996 and it's almost unfair to expect him to give us 30/5/5 AND play great D.

A younger Kobe, yes, he'd give us 35 and not roam so much on D, a 34 year old Kobe can't do it like he used to.

I'd like to see him at least close out on shooters more and cut back on gambling for steals or just completly losing track of his man, but it is what it is.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:40 PM

We're not asking to shut his man down. We're simply asking to stop gambling on D and stop losing track of his man.

Edited by Notorious Arab, December 04, 2012 - 09:40 PM.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:42 PM

We're not asking to shut his man down. We're simply asking to stop gambling on D and stop losing track of his man.


Then why don't you tell the help defenders to switch on the wing while he's fighting through 2 screens rather than just standing still?

The only way Kobe gets to his man at that point is bulldozing someone and that's a foul on him.

Edited by Majesty, December 04, 2012 - 09:46 PM.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:45 PM

Then why don't you tell the help defenders to switch on the wing while he's fighting through 2 screens rather than just standing still?

The only way Kobe gets to his man at that point is bulldozing someone and that's an offensive foul.


We're not talking about screens. Jesus you guys can't handle it when some one criticizes Kobe. He is roaming on D. Do you understand what roaming means?

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:47 PM

We're not talking about screens. Jesus you guys can't handle it when some one criticizes Kobe. He is roaming on D. Do you understand what roaming means?


I wonder why he roams.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:50 PM

We're not talking about screens. Jesus you guys can't handle it when some one criticizes Kobe. He is roaming on D. Do you understand what roaming means?


yeah but tonight's problem had nothing to do with his "roaming" -_-

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 09:59 PM

yeah but tonight's problem had nothing to do with his "roaming" -_-


Yes it did. He left shooters open all night which caused his teammates to help out which screws the rotation.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:03 PM

Kobe's what?

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:07 PM

I would rather have Kobe spend less energy on offense and not have to shoot 31 times a game if it means he has more energy for D
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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:08 PM

you guys are ridiculous.... dude has to score 40... and you want d on every possesion too? and this is just one of 82... thats laughable.... the team around him should be able to cover there manwith plenty of energy. because the offense is all kobe and them watching. that kind of energy is asking alot out of a 24 year old kobe much less the old man.
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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:08 PM

I would rather have Kobe spend less energy on offense and not have to shoot 31 times a game if it means he has more energy for D


That wont happen until Nash is back.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:09 PM

I would rather have Kobe spend less energy on offense and not have to shoot 31 times a game if it means he has more energy for D



but he cant right now... because the offense is crap.
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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:13 PM

It's been very poor but like ace said, I get it. You can only have so much energy in a game.

Just wish he wouldn't leave them completely wide open is all.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:19 PM

but he cant right now... because the offense is crap.

The offense was less crap when he was getting 8-9 assists a game by setting other people up and not shooting over 25 times a game. We barely even give Dwight the ball either. He needs touches and he'll get up 20+ points a night on 9-10 shots
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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:21 PM

Man some of you just don't understand. No one is asking him to play lock down D. Just contest his man and rotate accordingly.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:32 PM

Completely agree. Kobe's defense at the end was no where to be seen again.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:37 PM

Man some of you just don't understand. No one is asking him to play lock down D. Just contest his man and rotate accordingly.

I get what you mean and he should roam less no doubt about it but it's not a simple "Kobe doesn't respect his opponent on defense" like some of you guys are saying. His teammates are to blame for their [expletive]ty defense and lack of energy on that end of the floor as well.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:46 PM

People keep focusing on the help D.

All of these things go away if the Lakers are able to make early stops in the first place. Kobe would be able to stay on his man by not needing to help out inside.

The Lakers have too much of a need for help D. In fact, they have a need for help help D and even help help help D because of the lack of speed on this team.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 10:55 PM

I get what you mean and he should roam less no doubt about it but it's not a simple "Kobe doesn't respect his opponent on defense" like some of you guys are saying. His teammates are to blame for their [expletive]ty defense and lack of energy on that end of the floor as well.


I agree. We need a defensive scheme a la Tom Thibodeau's Bulls.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 11:52 PM

I thought he played much better defense tonight. The tandem of him n Dwight held harden to 3-19 or something terrible.

We got torched by Gary smith or whoever the [expletive] joe schmo that was and toney Douglass (Duhon and DMo's man) tonight. What was it like 60 bench points for Houston? Geez!

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