What is the solution? Are the Lakers just a bad team?
#21
Posted December 04, 2012 - 07:59 PM
Free throw
Free Throw!
do i need to say [expletive]in more?
until h
#22
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:00 PM
and do you expect steve nash can do better than Duhon and Morris?Bright side is having Hill and Clark in prevents a lot of easy inside shots other teams were getting on us. But Morris and Meeks defense tonight was atrocious as well as not enough perimeter switching off screens.
Kobe had to run through two screens and no one switched off which is why Kobe was screaming at them every time, D'antoni touched on this too.
I'm sorry but Kobe isn't gonna fight through two screens and block a guys shot without fouling someone to get out of the way.
And yes, part of that is on Dwight too. Because often it was Dwight's man screening Kobe off the side and Dwight wasn't watching the ball.
But of course it's easier to blame Kobe than to be logical.
"If I can do it tomorrow I won't do it today!"
#23
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:00 PM
#24
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:02 PM
and do you expect steve nash can do better than Duhon and Morris?
Know why?
Because Steve Nash cuts back something that seems to cost us a lot of games....
TURNOVERS!!!
Making Kobe not have to be the facilitator and the main offensive guy while also taking the ball out of Duhon's and Morris' hands and letting Nash run the offense and set people up and find them will cut back on our turnovers ESPECIALLY our unforced turnovers.
Because that is what we get scored on off of(turnovers)
That is a problem.
If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.
You should reach more often
#25
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:02 PM
Other than that, we just haven't had enough time together and hardly any time with Nash. Disappointing, but it is what it is. Bad team right now. If they don't turn it around fast, won't be making the playoffs.
#26
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:04 PM
#27
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:05 PM
I already said that in the 2nd postHoward Free throw
Free throw
Free Throw!
do i need to say [expletive]in more?
until h
People should realize were not WINNING in CLOSE MATCH
We used to lose in a CLOSE GAME that's not the LAKERS
Lakers are good in finishing the game not this kind of Game
Most of the lakers game that they won is a blow out win not a close win
People should realize Playoffs is more on close game not BLOW OUT WIN
Lakers fans wants to rebound and defend the ball etc etc but the problem Lakers can't win in close game because of D12's Free throw
"If I can do it tomorrow I won't do it today!"
#28
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:05 PM
As for a solution to this team, there is none. Lakers are just not good. End of story.
#29
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:06 PM
The Lakers are old, and that won't change with this roster as is. Kobe and Metta can't keep up with their men. They need help on most of their assignments most of the time.
You can't rely on help D as much as the Lakers are and expect to win.
Cutting down on turnovers will help, but the Lakers are having trouble even in the half court keeping up with the other team. That's why the other team always gets wide open shots after a few passes and gets offensive rebounds.

#30
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:06 PM
#31
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:10 PM
NahKnow why?
Because Steve Nash cuts back something that seems to cost us a lot of games....
TURNOVERS!!!
Making Kobe not have to be the facilitator and the main offensive guy while also taking the ball out of Duhon's and Morris' hands and letting Nash run the offense and set people up and find them will cut back on our turnovers ESPECIALLY our unforced turnovers.
Because that is what we get scored on off of(turnovers)
That is a problem.
Were talking about defense
Not the offense I know those stupid things about his dribbling skills and passing skills
I know those stuff
read what you've said about morris and duhon defense at the time
I'm not talking about their offense and Duhon played better this time (Just this time)
If Duhon and Morris can't play defense then what do you expect from nash who is aging
TURNOVER? Sure but do you think playoff is not a close game?
Lakers only won in BLOW OUT WIN
Our PROBLEM is WE CAN'T WIN in CLOSE GAME, WE CAN'T CLOSE IT
If the lakers are getting STRUGGLE in CLOSE GAME THIS SEASON what do you EXPECT from them in the playoffs?
Because D12's Gives Pressure to the lakers and draining all of their confidence.
"If I can do it tomorrow I won't do it today!"
#32
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:12 PM
Nah
Were talking about defense
Not the offense I know those stupid things about his dribbling skills and passing skills
I know those stuff
read what you've said about morris and duhon defense at the time
I'm not talking about their offense and Duhon played better this time (Just this time)
If Duhon and Morris can't play defense then what do you expect from nash who is aging
TURNOVER? Sure but do you think playoff is not a close game?
Lakers only won in BLOW OUT WIN
Our PROBLEM is WE CAN'T WIN in CLOSE GAME, WE CAN'T CLOSE IT
If the lakers are getting STRUGGLE in CLOSE GAME THIS SEASON what do you EXPECT from them in the playoffs?
Because D12's Gives Pressure to the lakers and draining all of their confidence.
You're aware that a lot of the times we've been scored on has been off turnovers.
You're aware that
TURNOVERS!!
Are part of the defensive problems of this team right?
it makes absolutely no sense to say "Nah it ain't turnovers it's defense!"
When it's turnovers that CAUSE a vast majority of our defensive problems tonight
The Rockets had 40 more possessions than we did...
but yeah Turnovers had nothing to do with it
Edited by Majesty, December 04, 2012 - 08:13 PM.
If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.
You should reach more often
#33
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:13 PM
#34
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:18 PM
You're aware that a lot of the times we've been scored on has been off turnovers.
You're aware that
TURNOVERS!!
Are part of the defensive problems of this team right?
it makes absolutely no sense to say "Nah it ain't turnovers it's defense!"
When it's turnovers that CAUSE a vast majority of our defensive problems tonight
The Rockets had 40 more possessions than we did...
but yeah Turnovers had nothing to do with it
Cutting down on turnovers will help.
But even in the half court, the Lakers just can't keep up with them. The other team still gets easy shots and offensive rebounds.

#35
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:20 PM
Cutting down on turnovers will help.
But even in the half court, the Lakers just can't keep up with them. The other team still gets easy shots and offensive rebounds.
The easiest shots they got was off our turnovers. It wasn't about "keeping up with them" It was about switching on them around the perimeter since interior-wise we did a good job till late in the game.
It comes down to turnovers. Cut down on our turnovers and it solves a lot of our problems.
If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.
You should reach more often
#36
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:22 PM
if the lakers Decreases their turnover it would end up in BLOW OUT WINYou're aware that a lot of the times we've been scored on has been off turnovers.
You're aware that
TURNOVERS!!
Are part of the defensive problems of this team right?
it makes absolutely no sense to say "Nah it ain't turnovers it's defense!"
When it's turnovers that CAUSE a vast majority of our defensive problems tonight
The Rockets had 40 more possessions than we did...
but yeah Turnovers had nothing to do with it
and that's not a CLOSE GAME
Do you think PLAYOFFS is always a BLOW OUT WIN?
Most of the games in playoffs are CLOSE GAME not a BLOW OUT WIN
Our Problem is we can't WIN in CLOSE GAME, We Struggle
Wake up Dude you just want a WIN not a RING
I want another RING for this team and you're just thinking for a WIN
How come we can win the playoffs if we can only win in a BLOW OUT GAMES
"If I can do it tomorrow I won't do it today!"
#37
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM
The one thing that's really irked me these past two games has been what happens when teams decide to go the Hack-a-Dwight route. It doesn't irritate me that they do it, it irritates me how the team totally relaxes at the worst possible time. The last two games they played no defense while it was going on. They should know that points will be hard to come by and yet they played with very little energy or sense of urgency.
#38
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM
#39
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM
The easiest shots they got was off our turnovers. It wasn't about "keeping up with them" It was about switching on them around the perimeter since interior-wise we did a good job till late in the game.
It comes down to turnovers. Cut down on our turnovers and it solves a lot of our problems.
The Lakers didn't turn the ball over on every possession, but the other team got an easy basket on nearly every possession.
The Lakers need athleticism to chase down rebounds and to defend their quicker players. Simple screens pretty much guarantees other teams easy baskets because Metta and Kobe are too slow to recover on time. They also get beaten constantly off the dribble. They can't stay in front of their men. Quicker guys are able to do that at times and don't need help defense as much as Kobe and Metta do.
Edited by Japago, December 04, 2012 - 08:26 PM.

#40
Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM
if the lakers Decreases their turnover it would end up in BLOW OUT WIN
and that's not a CLOSE GAME
Do you think PLAYOFFS is always a BLOW OUT WIN?
Most of the games in playoffs are CLOSE GAME not a BLOW OUT WIN
Our Problem is we can't WIN in CLOSE GAME, We Struggle
Wake up Dude you just want a WIN not a RING
I want another RING for this team and you're just thinking for a WIN
How come we can win the playoffs if we can only win in a BLOW OUT GAMES
Wait wait, you're saying that if we cut back on our turnovers we'll start blowing teams out... and you're asking me how we're going to win in the playoffs if we're blowing teams out..
You worded that wrong right?
If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.
You should reach more often
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