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#21 Red September

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 07:59 PM

Howard Free throw

Free throw

Free Throw!

do i need to say [expletive]in more?

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:00 PM

Bright side is having Hill and Clark in prevents a lot of easy inside shots other teams were getting on us. But Morris and Meeks defense tonight was atrocious as well as not enough perimeter switching off screens.

Kobe had to run through two screens and no one switched off which is why Kobe was screaming at them every time, D'antoni touched on this too.

I'm sorry but Kobe isn't gonna fight through two screens and block a guys shot without fouling someone to get out of the way.

And yes, part of that is on Dwight too. Because often it was Dwight's man screening Kobe off the side and Dwight wasn't watching the ball.

But of course it's easier to blame Kobe than to be logical.

and do you expect steve nash can do better than Duhon and Morris?

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:00 PM

This game wasn't on Howard's FTs. He made at least 1 every time they sent him to the line. We had too many turnovers, too many blown assignments, and too many offensive rebounds given up. We can correct them and we've been saying this for awhile but we'll see... I always got faith in the Lakers

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:02 PM

and do you expect steve nash can do better than Duhon and Morris?


Know why?

Because Steve Nash cuts back something that seems to cost us a lot of games....


TURNOVERS!!!


:)

Making Kobe not have to be the facilitator and the main offensive guy while also taking the ball out of Duhon's and Morris' hands and letting Nash run the offense and set people up and find them will cut back on our turnovers ESPECIALLY our unforced turnovers.

Because that is what we get scored on off of(turnovers)

That is a problem.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:02 PM

Need someone who can play harder. It's all just a matter of heart and athleticism. We don't have quickness or athleticism at the two positions where it's arguably the most vital; pg and sf. Need a Farmar/Ariza type combo. Those guys used to be all over the place, getting in passing lanes, diving for loose balls, finishing at the rim. Ebanks ain't doing that. Morris/Duhon sure as hell ain't doing that. Metta has picked up his play significantly this season, he's just not fast enough.

Other than that, we just haven't had enough time together and hardly any time with Nash. Disappointing, but it is what it is. Bad team right now. If they don't turn it around fast, won't be making the playoffs.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:04 PM

WE'RE DOOOOOOOMED!!!

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:05 PM

Howard Free throw

Free throw

Free Throw!

do i need to say [expletive]in more?

until h

I already said that in the 2nd post

People should realize were not WINNING in CLOSE MATCH

We used to lose in a CLOSE GAME that's not the LAKERS

Lakers are good in finishing the game not this kind of Game


Most of the lakers game that they won is a blow out win not a close win


People should realize Playoffs is more on close game not BLOW OUT WIN

Lakers fans wants to rebound and defend the ball etc etc but the problem Lakers can't win in close game because of D12's Free throw

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:05 PM

Haha, calling them a "bad" team is being way too nice. Overrated sounds more fitting.

As for a solution to this team, there is none. Lakers are just not good. End of story.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:06 PM

I just don't see how people can continue to watch other teams run circles around the Lakers and not think it's a problem.

The Lakers are old, and that won't change with this roster as is. Kobe and Metta can't keep up with their men. They need help on most of their assignments most of the time.

You can't rely on help D as much as the Lakers are and expect to win.

Cutting down on turnovers will help, but the Lakers are having trouble even in the half court keeping up with the other team. That's why the other team always gets wide open shots after a few passes and gets offensive rebounds.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:06 PM

and its funny that these delusional fans believe that when steve nash comes back everything will be fine-n-dandy....steve nash is 39 years old...approaching 40 in Feb. This is not the same Steve Nash in 2005-2006. Steve nash is not going to decrease second chance points, he's not going to come up with all the lose balls, he's not going to increase the lakers defense... matter fact it will be worse. He's may decrease turnovers by a margin and get Kobe and the rest of the team some points but will that actually fix the problem.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:10 PM

Know why?

Because Steve Nash cuts back something that seems to cost us a lot of games....


TURNOVERS!!!


:)

Making Kobe not have to be the facilitator and the main offensive guy while also taking the ball out of Duhon's and Morris' hands and letting Nash run the offense and set people up and find them will cut back on our turnovers ESPECIALLY our unforced turnovers.

Because that is what we get scored on off of(turnovers)

That is a problem.

Nah

Were talking about defense

Not the offense I know those stupid things about his dribbling skills and passing skills

I know those stuff

read what you've said about morris and duhon defense at the time

I'm not talking about their offense and Duhon played better this time (Just this time)



If Duhon and Morris can't play defense then what do you expect from nash who is aging


TURNOVER? Sure but do you think playoff is not a close game?

Lakers only won in BLOW OUT WIN


Our PROBLEM is WE CAN'T WIN in CLOSE GAME, WE CAN'T CLOSE IT

If the lakers are getting STRUGGLE in CLOSE GAME THIS SEASON what do you EXPECT from them in the playoffs?



Because D12's Gives Pressure to the lakers and draining all of their confidence.

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#32 Majesty

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:12 PM

Nah

Were talking about defense

Not the offense I know those stupid things about his dribbling skills and passing skills

I know those stuff

read what you've said about morris and duhon defense at the time

I'm not talking about their offense and Duhon played better this time (Just this time)



If Duhon and Morris can't play defense then what do you expect from nash who is aging


TURNOVER? Sure but do you think playoff is not a close game?

Lakers only won in BLOW OUT WIN


Our PROBLEM is WE CAN'T WIN in CLOSE GAME, WE CAN'T CLOSE IT

If the lakers are getting STRUGGLE in CLOSE GAME THIS SEASON what do you EXPECT from them in the playoffs?



Because D12's Gives Pressure to the lakers and draining all of their confidence.


You're aware that a lot of the times we've been scored on has been off turnovers.


You're aware that

TURNOVERS!!

Are part of the defensive problems of this team right?

it makes absolutely no sense to say "Nah it ain't turnovers it's defense!"

When it's turnovers that CAUSE a vast majority of our defensive problems tonight

The Rockets had 40 more possessions than we did...

but yeah Turnovers had nothing to do with it

Edited by Majesty, December 04, 2012 - 08:13 PM.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:13 PM

This:


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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:18 PM

You're aware that a lot of the times we've been scored on has been off turnovers.


You're aware that

TURNOVERS!!

Are part of the defensive problems of this team right?

it makes absolutely no sense to say "Nah it ain't turnovers it's defense!"

When it's turnovers that CAUSE a vast majority of our defensive problems tonight

The Rockets had 40 more possessions than we did...

but yeah Turnovers had nothing to do with it


Cutting down on turnovers will help.

But even in the half court, the Lakers just can't keep up with them. The other team still gets easy shots and offensive rebounds.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:20 PM

Cutting down on turnovers will help.

But even in the half court, the Lakers just can't keep up with them. The other team still gets easy shots and offensive rebounds.


The easiest shots they got was off our turnovers. It wasn't about "keeping up with them" It was about switching on them around the perimeter since interior-wise we did a good job till late in the game.

It comes down to turnovers. Cut down on our turnovers and it solves a lot of our problems.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:22 PM

You're aware that a lot of the times we've been scored on has been off turnovers.


You're aware that

TURNOVERS!!

Are part of the defensive problems of this team right?

it makes absolutely no sense to say "Nah it ain't turnovers it's defense!"

When it's turnovers that CAUSE a vast majority of our defensive problems tonight

The Rockets had 40 more possessions than we did...

but yeah Turnovers had nothing to do with it

if the lakers Decreases their turnover it would end up in BLOW OUT WIN

and that's not a CLOSE GAME

Do you think PLAYOFFS is always a BLOW OUT WIN?

Most of the games in playoffs are CLOSE GAME not a BLOW OUT WIN

Our Problem is we can't WIN in CLOSE GAME, We Struggle


Wake up Dude you just want a WIN not a RING

I want another RING for this team and you're just thinking for a WIN


How come we can win the playoffs if we can only win in a BLOW OUT GAMES

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM

The solution is pretty simple. It's playing hard for a full 48 minute game.

The one thing that's really irked me these past two games has been what happens when teams decide to go the Hack-a-Dwight route. It doesn't irritate me that they do it, it irritates me how the team totally relaxes at the worst possible time. The last two games they played no defense while it was going on. They should know that points will be hard to come by and yet they played with very little energy or sense of urgency.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM

I think we're just overrated. Offensively the Lakers are very explosive, but right now just horrendous on the defensive side. Nash is terrific, but he will not help us out at all on defense.
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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM

The easiest shots they got was off our turnovers. It wasn't about "keeping up with them" It was about switching on them around the perimeter since interior-wise we did a good job till late in the game.

It comes down to turnovers. Cut down on our turnovers and it solves a lot of our problems.


The Lakers didn't turn the ball over on every possession, but the other team got an easy basket on nearly every possession.

The Lakers need athleticism to chase down rebounds and to defend their quicker players. Simple screens pretty much guarantees other teams easy baskets because Metta and Kobe are too slow to recover on time. They also get beaten constantly off the dribble. They can't stay in front of their men. Quicker guys are able to do that at times and don't need help defense as much as Kobe and Metta do.

Edited by Japago, December 04, 2012 - 08:26 PM.

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Posted December 04, 2012 - 08:24 PM

if the lakers Decreases their turnover it would end up in BLOW OUT WIN

and that's not a CLOSE GAME

Do you think PLAYOFFS is always a BLOW OUT WIN?

Most of the games in playoffs are CLOSE GAME not a BLOW OUT WIN

Our Problem is we can't WIN in CLOSE GAME, We Struggle


Wake up Dude you just want a WIN not a RING

I want another RING for this team and you're just thinking for a WIN


How come we can win the playoffs if we can only win in a BLOW OUT GAMES


Wait wait, you're saying that if we cut back on our turnovers we'll start blowing teams out... and you're asking me how we're going to win in the playoffs if we're blowing teams out..

You worded that wrong right?

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