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#761 WWBD

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 10:30 PM

With the exception of Kentucky over the last few years, Duke pumps out more great pros than anybody else.

 

Was Coach K really running his "system" with the Olympic team?  Or with any of the crazy different teams he's had at duke over the last 30 years?  The only "system" he has is getting his team to play universally great defense, and then finding whatever offensive style best suits his players.

 

Not that there's any reason to continue this Coach K discussion.  He's never leaving Duke at this point.



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Posted May 02, 2013 - 10:38 PM

Krzyzewski really has no reason to leave Duke, since Kobe is now at the tail end of his career (not saying he's no longer a superstar, but Krzyzewski would have preferred to coach him earlier in his prime, if at any point of his career).

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Posted May 02, 2013 - 11:44 PM


Coach K is NOT an NBA coach.

International competition is still not the same as the NBA and he had the greatest players in the NBA on the same team.


You can't make coaching in the Olympics the same as having NBA success.  

He isn't going to have Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James on the same team in the NBA although he managed ego's well.  But that said, a gold medal holds a lot more "all for one" in it than an NBA Championship.  Ask Pau Gasol.

And international competition is very one sided in terms of the US NBA players. 

That's why team USA rarely loses when they send their best.

It doesn't translate into coaching effectively at the NBA level with a young team or even a veteran team for 82 games against NBA level competition on every night.

You can try to relate the two but they aren't relate-able.  Olympic success =/= Same success as an NBA coach.

Coach K is an NCAA and college coach and one of the greatest of all time. And that's where he should stay.

I get that you like the guy, but he should stay in college.

 

 

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Most of what you're saying is that Coach K has no reason to leave Duke, which I agree with.

 

His system will work at the pro level because of the intangibles he has developed throughout his career and throughout coaching USA Basketball. He knows how to manage superstar talent, which is more than we can say about half the league's coaches. What makes a coach like Phil so special? His ability to manage players. What makes a coach like D'Antoni such trash? His inability to do the same.

 

Coach K commands the respect of a Kobe Bryant, or a LeBron James. People want to play for him for a reason. There's something that all these executives and GM's see in him that makes them consistently consider him for a job. There's a reason he IS consistently atop the ACC and coaching a final 4 team. He's been doing this for 20 years. 

 

I'm not relating Olympic success to success as an NBA coach (and I can make the argument), but the fact that he has won at an elite pace at different levels proves his qualifications for an NBA job. Success is success. When you consistently succeed at multiple levels (under different personnel), than you're good enough to implement a system and coaching style that can make you successful at an even higher level. You're telling me that Mike D'Antoni can win 60 games in this league, but Coach K can't even coach in it? Mike Brown can take us to the playoffs in this league, but Coach K can't coach in it? Not buying it.

 

You're questioning Coach K's ability to adapt to the NBA, which is ridiculous when you look at what he's done. He coaches basketball players. Period.


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Posted May 03, 2013 - 12:49 AM

Coach K will not leave Duke because the college game is vastly different from the pro game.  College basketball IS basketball.  Pro basketball is about stars, athleticism and business.

 

 

Coach K is a purist.  He loves X's and O's.  He loves teaching the game.  He'd quit in a month of dealing with LeBron and his entourage...

 

MDA hiring a defensive assistant is an olive branch to Dwight.  Dwight knows he's top dog now.  He needs reassurances that this team will revolve around his skill-sets...P&R (which MDA is an expert) and defense (which MDA is allergic).

 

I firmly believe that we can land a great defensive assistant who will make this team better...will that satisfy the fanbase?  

 

 

LOL...not even close.



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Posted May 03, 2013 - 03:46 AM

So Mike D’Antoni wants a defensive coach? What a dick!

 

Seriously, this has been his M.O. for the whole season.

 

Everyone who isn’t a complete tool would agree that if you look at this team on paper, a “typical” D’Antoni offense wouldn’t work and that we needed to slow the pace and work through our bigs. D’Antoni – the basketball genius – still wanted them to push the pace and play D’Antoni-esque basketball. The players basically had to go over MDAs head in order to play the right way i.e. through our bigs and the result was a very solid record in the second half of the season.

 

Then late in the season MDA said that playing through our bigs was a good idea. Good call there, coach! Everyone have been saying this for months.

 

So now he wants a defensive coach? Why the [expletive] didn’t you hire a defensive coach in the beginning of the season BEFORE we ended up 7 below .500???

 

The reason why a coach is hired is to get the best out of the AVAILABLE players and PREDICT AND ADDRESS potential challenges.

Ship his ass out!



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Posted May 03, 2013 - 04:57 AM

He is saying this because he knows that Dwight cares about defense and that he will cann him.

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Posted May 03, 2013 - 05:20 AM

He is saying this because he knows that Dwight cares about defense and that he will cann him.

It really is quite pathetic. I also heard Max and Marcellus talk about how MDA tries to mention how they went from being 7 games under .500 and still did well.



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Posted May 03, 2013 - 06:30 AM

With the exception of Kentucky over the last few years, Duke pumps out more great pros than anybody else.


Name me them. Go ahead, do all the research you need to, you won't find any superstar talent.

Coach K was assigned to team USA because he is a basketball guru. No one expects him to implement a system to a team who isn't a developing college team. A team full of LeBron Durant Kobe and Melo doesn't need a system.

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Posted May 03, 2013 - 11:28 PM

No JVG mention? He's awesome defensively.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 06:01 PM

Steal Tom Thibodeau & Doc Rivers & call it a day. This team would instantly be the toughest, most serious, & full of heart team in the league. Effort would never be questioned.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 06:21 PM

With D'Antoni definitely coming back, it's all about the leash he has going into next year.

 

With NY, he got fired 42 games into the 66 game season. That's the equivalent of about 52 games into an 82 game season.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 06:37 PM

With D'Antoni definitely coming back, it's all about the leash he has going into next year.

 

With NY, he got fired 42 games into the 66 game season. That's the equivalent of about 52 games into an 82 game season.

 

I'm hoping it's about as long as Mike Brown's was this season. 



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Posted May 06, 2013 - 06:44 PM

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Posted May 06, 2013 - 08:49 PM

Steal Tom Thibodeau & Doc Rivers & call it a day. This team would instantly be the toughest, most serious, & full of heart team in the league. Effort would never be questioned.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 09:01 PM

What I said is close to 100% certain factual, but it happening however, is almost completely impossible.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 09:22 PM

I'm hoping it's about as long as Mike Brown's was this season. 

 

We can only hope.

 

Their instance on using injuries as an excuse for this season worries me though. It's pathetic if they really believe what they're saying. Not that injuries were a complete non-factor, but you can clearly tell this team has issues beyond that.


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Posted May 06, 2013 - 09:49 PM

   People seem to be misunderstanding how different coaching is between the NBA and college.  In college, success tracks with your ability to recruit.  You don't have to be a great in-game coach, or a ridiculously dedicated film-watcher, for example, if you are sending out six NBA prospects like Calipari recently did.  There is no recruiting in the NBA ( or, not much, just the occasional free agent wooing ).  No NBA coach constantly has vastly superior talent... not even Jackson.  Completely different ballgame.

 

   It is possible that Coach K could also be a good NBA coach, but the list of guys who have had major success at both levels is not long.  There is no chance that Coach K's "system" would translate, since it is almost embarrassingly simple.  All Duke does is recruit shooters, and shoot more threes than almost anyone.  This is sound practice if you have better shooters, but when you have an off-night you will lose to a 'lesser' team.  Duke does this often, usually playing below their seed in the Tournament.  Defensively, all Duke does is foul every player all the time, and dare the officials to blow the whistle every trip.  No crew will, especially at Cameron.  They haven't played a basketball game at CIS in years... more closely resembles rugby.

 

   Both are obviously sound strategies to win a lot of college games, but only in a particular set of circumstances that don't travel well.  If you want to find a good NBA coaching prospect in college, look for a guy who has consistent success without having a talent advantage.  And one who does so without resorting to a full-court press, which is not going to work in the pros.  Not many college coaches have consistent success without eventual NBA players on their roster.



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Posted May 06, 2013 - 11:46 PM

Pringles leash should be a choke collar.  And he should just be put to sleep anyway...


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Posted May 07, 2013 - 05:06 AM

Lakers need to find the NEXT Thibs or Mark Jackson...



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Posted May 07, 2013 - 05:26 AM

Tim Duncan played 34 mins in a double overtime playoff game... his team won...

 

 

That should be highlighted and sent to dantonie along with his pink slip... no further explination needed...







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