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#3661 Yellow_Evan

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Posted May 04, 2014 - 09:41 AM

MDA is done as an NBA coach.

 

He'd injure everyone on GS. He'd fail there.

 

His system would not work at the college level either.


Edited by Yellow_Evan, May 04, 2014 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 09:58 AM

GS would be an exciting team to watch with MDA but they won't win jack. They can't play defense done the stretch, and procesnt versus LAC.

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Posted May 04, 2014 - 10:17 AM

Bogut better leave Golden State now if MDA becomes the coach there...



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Posted May 04, 2014 - 10:49 AM

Let's trade a potential franchise player for a potential franchise player?

Lakers, in the position they're in with so many question marks would most likely prefer over paying for a star, if its the right star, than waiting for a young pick to develop.

If the lakers were stocked and just needed a piece, they could gamble on the pick becoming a star.

In the mess theyre in, i don't think they can


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 02:25 PM

No he's not.  No GM is judging him off of Nick Young and Pau being his best talent

 

MDA is done as an NBA coach.

 

He'd injure everyone on GS. He'd fail there.

 

His system would not work at the college level either.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 03:03 PM

Any GM that signs off on MDA must not value his job.

 

And there's nothing exciting about a game of basketball that's devoid of defense. Never understood that.


Edited by Windu, May 04, 2014 - 03:04 PM.

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Posted May 04, 2014 - 03:10 PM

Any GM that signs off on MDA must not value his job.

 

And there's nothing exciting about a game of basketball that's devoid of defense. Never understood that.

Their series' with the Lakers and Spurs were very exciting



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Posted May 04, 2014 - 04:12 PM

No he's not.  No GM is judging him off of Nick Young and Pau being his best talent


Just about yeah.  A GM is more or less thinking "wow.. what if he had a personnel that could fit his system because even with that Lakers team they would blow some good teams out.." 

Then that GM is gonna look at Steph Curry and imagine all the open shots he'd be getting... gonna look at Harrison Barnes in the 3/D/Cutter role as well as Iggy... look at Klay Thompson getting the shots Meeks was getting.   Looking at Bogut as simply a rim protector and screen setter.. and looking at David Lee getting the open mid range shots Gasol did when he played the 4 and they are going to think about how effective a bench of Steve Blake, Jordan Crawford, Harrison Barnes would be.  

The personnel in Golden State fits what D'antoni runs almost too perfectly.  Golden State wasn't much of a defensive team this year they just had a good rim protector in Bogut as well as Iggy defending the perimeter, that wouldn't change.   

The fact of the matter is their team fits the personnel for the shots they'd be taking and above all else Curry and Klay would likely be hitting a majority of the open looks they'd get and Steph would look like an MVP because he'd FINALLY get screens and Horns ran to him and considering he was 47/44/88 in an offense where Mark Jackson had him iso nearlyu every play he had over a contest with little or no screen action there's no doubt that coming off a double screen or a horns set like D'antoni runs that Steph would get so many open opportunities he'd likely shoot 50% and the defense would be unable to trap him as easily because their spacing wouldn't be so messed up and it would force Thompson to actually have to commit to moving off ball. 

 

D'antoni's offense would probably work with Golden State better than any other team in the NBA.     It takes a point guard like a Steve Nash in order to make D'antoni's offense work and it works with a point guard like that because the way he maneuvers in the offense and the 'good' shots he gets or the good shots he sets up others for is what allows them to set up on the other end.  Steph is the closest D'antoni would ever get to recapturing what Steve Nash was able to do and would probably tone down the ill advised shots the Warriors would take.   As efficient as they were under Jackson when he never ran set plays for them and they took a LOT of ill advised shots(like Steph jacking up shots 4 feet behind the 3 point line with 21 seconds on the shot clock while defended) you'd have to think that they'd be more efficient under MDA.  AS much as Lakers fans hate him, he fits with Golden State.  Especially if Golden State constantly doesn't fix their post problems, the fact they do not and won't makes me think they don't want to go in that direction and if that is the case then yes MDA is the perfect coach for them.  Him or Gentry. 

would they win a championship?  unlikely.  

But there is no denying that Curry would be twice as devastating coming off screens and wide open mid range shots than he already is having to shoot over contests with no screens coming his way. 


Edited by Majesty, May 04, 2014 - 04:14 PM.

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Posted May 04, 2014 - 04:18 PM

Stop being a voice of reason and using logic.  You know that isn't welcomed.

 


Just about yeah.  A GM is more or less thinking "wow.. what if he had a personnel that could fit his system because even with that Lakers team they would blow some good teams out.." 

Then that GM is gonna look at Steph Curry and imagine all the open shots he'd be getting... gonna look at Harrison Barnes in the 3/D/Cutter role as well as Iggy... look at Klay Thompson getting the shots Meeks was getting.   Looking at Bogut as simply a rim protector and screen setter.. and looking at David Lee getting the open mid range shots Gasol did when he played the 4 and they are going to think about how effective a bench of Steve Blake, Jordan Crawford, Harrison Barnes would be.  

The personnel in Golden State fits what D'antoni runs almost too perfectly.  Golden State wasn't much of a defensive team this year they just had a good rim protector in Bogut as well as Iggy defending the perimeter, that wouldn't change.   

The fact of the matter is their team fits the personnel for the shots they'd be taking and above all else Curry and Klay would likely be hitting a majority of the open looks they'd get and Steph would look like an MVP because he'd FINALLY get screens and Horns ran to him and considering he was 47/44/88 in an offense where Mark Jackson had him iso nearlyu every play he had over a contest with little or no screen action there's no doubt that coming off a double screen or a horns set like D'antoni runs that Steph would get so many open opportunities he'd likely shoot 50% and the defense would be unable to trap him as easily because their spacing wouldn't be so messed up and it would force Thompson to actually have to commit to moving off ball. 

 

D'antoni's offense would probably work with Golden State better than any other team in the NBA.     It takes a point guard like a Steve Nash in order to make D'antoni's offense work and it works with a point guard like that because the way he maneuvers in the offense and the 'good' shots he gets or the good shots he sets up others for is what allows them to set up on the other end.  Steph is the closest D'antoni would ever get to recapturing what Steve Nash was able to do and would probably tone down the ill advised shots the Warriors would take.   As efficient as they were under Jackson when he never ran set plays for them and they took a LOT of ill advised shots(like Steph jacking up shots 4 feet behind the 3 point line with 21 seconds on the shot clock while defended) you'd have to think that they'd be more efficient under MDA.  AS much as Lakers fans hate him, he fits with Golden State.  Especially if Golden State constantly doesn't fix their post problems, the fact they do not and won't makes me think they don't want to go in that direction and if that is the case then yes MDA is the perfect coach for them.  Him or Gentry. 

would they win a championship?  unlikely.  

But there is no denying that Curry would be twice as devastating coming off screens and wide open mid range shots than he already is having to shoot over contests with no screens coming his way. 


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 04:29 PM

MDA's system will never work without another Steve Nash and the appropriate role players. Even then, it will never be good enough to win a championship, which is why he's never won one. 

 

Golden State shouldn't hire him. Anyone who thinks MDA still has any value as a coach is stuck in the Phoenix Suns glory days from 7 years ago. 



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Posted May 04, 2014 - 05:44 PM

Why not hire someone that can help them get Curry decent shots without all the stupidness that hiring MDA brings?

 

MDA is not the only coach that can improve the Dubs offense, not by a long shot. And it wasn't their offense that lost this series, anyway. They need a new big man. Can't trust Bogut. If they hired MDA Draymond Green would be the 4 and he'd put David Lee at the 5 and that team would be a defensive nightmare.

 

I agree that hiring him would definitely help their offense. But being able to get boards and playing decent defense is what's gonna make the warriors go farther than one and done. 


Edited by -MagicKareemKobe-, May 04, 2014 - 05:46 PM.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 05:55 PM

MDA's system will never work without another Steve Nash and the appropriate role players. Even then, it will never be good enough to win a championship, which is why he's never won one. 

 

Golden State shouldn't hire him. Anyone who thinks MDA still has any value as a coach is stuck in the Phoenix Suns glory days from 7 years ago. 

Look at this talent

 

Tony Parker

Tim Duncan

Manu Ginobli

 

 

Now people might give Nash the nod as an overall player to Parker...I dont bc Tony is a better scorer and get on the inside easier plus he doesn't dominate the ball( ball dominant Pgs havent won a title since Bad Boy Pistons)

 

Tim vs Amare...Lol  I think its like asking Kobe vs Vince Carter

 

Manu vs Matrix...Manu led a team against USA's best. At one point I used to be like " this dude is closest to Kobe in the game" Steals/clutch shots etc

 

 

Now, if you give MDA

 

Nassh, Amare in their primes, he had a good team...you start putting together pieces that dont fit

 

 

Like the slow ass team of Kobe as the fastest starter last season, Dwight who could barely dunk, Pau who couldnt hit a mid range shot or defend anyone, Chris Duhon and Metta shooting 3s because he is wide open .

 

 

 

 

And this team

 

 

 

 

the Kings never  got to the Finals, because as good as webber and Peja were, it doesnt compare to Kobe and Shaq

 

 

 

stop being biased and see what winning a title is really about

 

 

having one of the best all time

 

Bron

Kobe

Mj, 

Bird

Magic

The Dream

Zeke

 

and the occasional Dirk or Garnett or Detroit can get one 



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Posted May 04, 2014 - 09:05 PM

Look at this talent

 

Tony Parker

Tim Duncan

Manu Ginobli

 

 

Now people might give Nash the nod as an overall player to Parker...I dont bc Tony is a better scorer and get on the inside easier plus he doesn't dominate the ball( ball dominant Pgs havent won a title since Bad Boy Pistons)

 

Tim vs Amare...Lol  I think its like asking Kobe vs Vince Carter

 

Manu vs Matrix...Manu led a team against USA's best. At one point I used to be like " this dude is closest to Kobe in the game" Steals/clutch shots etc

 

 

Now, if you give MDA

 

Nassh, Amare in their primes, he had a good team...you start putting together pieces that dont fit

 

 

Like the slow ass team of Kobe as the fastest starter last season, Dwight who could barely dunk, Pau who couldnt hit a mid range shot or defend anyone, Chris Duhon and Metta shooting 3s because he is wide open .

 

 

 

 

And this team

 

 

 

 

the Kings never  got to the Finals, because as good as webber and Peja were, it doesnt compare to Kobe and Shaq

 

 

 

stop being biased and see what winning a title is really about

 

 

having one of the best all time

 

Bron

Kobe

Mj, 

Bird

Magic

The Dream

Zeke

 

and the occasional Dirk or Garnett or Detroit can get one 

 

All teams don't lose for the same reason. And the reason MDA's Suns teams never reached their potential is because they didn't play any defense due to the fast pace of the game (while the Mavs and Celtics did) When playoff time came, they were exposed by teams that knew how to play in the half court beyond PnR (i.e. the Spurs).

 

The Lakers with Howard and Gasol and Kobe could have done much better than 7th seed. But stupid MDA stuck to his system (which is why Duhon and MWP were shooting all those 3s, by the way) and ran Kobe into the ground, resulting in a disaster of a season. 


Edited by bfc1125roy, May 04, 2014 - 09:06 PM.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 09:19 PM

Implying that Golden State should hire a constant quitter as their coach is fallacy. Must like not having a real leader lead your men.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 09:22 PM

Mike D'Antoni is such a terrible coach.

The only reason he has credibility is because of a prime Steve Nash.

I would expect better from a fan base that witnessed his atrocious coaching techniques first hand for 2 years.
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Posted May 04, 2014 - 09:40 PM

MDA didn't even do anything in Phoenix so his apologists really have no framework to defend him. His Phoenix teams sucked because they didn't play defense.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 10:54 PM

Feel bad for Nash wasting his prime years with MDA? Question: Would Nash have done better with MDA's system?

Mike D'Antoni is GARBAGE.


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Posted May 04, 2014 - 10:59 PM

Nash solidified himself in Phoenix, he made MDA but if he'd never had that chance then he'd never would have been Nash either, considering his health and everyone thought his career was essentially almost done for the most part. 


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Posted May 05, 2014 - 12:37 AM

If MDA becomes the GSW HC next year, I'm picking up Steph at number 3 in fantasy

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Posted May 05, 2014 - 12:49 AM

If MDA becomes the GSW HC next year, I'm picking up Steph at number 3 in fantasy


Not sure how useful Steph will be when he only ends up playing 50 games.
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