State of the Western Conference after 15 games
#1
Posted November 29, 2012 - 09:47 AM
Many fans are freaking out over the Lakers 7-8 start, well just calm down because the Heat a couple seasons ago were 8-7 at the same mark, its not how you start, its how you finish.
Anyways, the Western Conference is struggling as a whole, need proof? Here you go:
Grizzlies are 11-2
Spurs are 13-3
Thunder are 12-4
After that? There is NO team in the West that has less than 6 losses.
This isn't the start we wanted. We also did not know we'd have a coaching change 5 games into the season. We are adjusting to a new system without Steve Nash, a not fully healed Dwight Howard, and a struggling Pau Gasol who may not be here come Christmas time.
Every team has questions and weak spots, but this is exactly why its better to have early season struggles than struggles in March/April heading into the playoffs.
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#2
Posted November 29, 2012 - 09:58 AM
#3
Posted November 29, 2012 - 10:22 AM
To start the 2007/2008 season we went 9-8 (ahem under Phil)
http://scores.espn.g...ameId=271202013
that team eventually reached 1st place about a month and a half later in January
We've had slow starts under Phil too where things haven't clicked

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#4
Posted November 29, 2012 - 10:25 AM
We're right where we should be considering Nash is hurt, the coaching change and lack of continuity
To start the 2007/2008 season we went 9-8 (ahem under Phil)
http://scores.espn.g...ameId=271202013
that team eventually reached 1st place about a month and a half later in January
We've had slow starts under Phil too where things haven't clicked
How dare you post anything negative about Phil Jackson!
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#5
Posted November 29, 2012 - 11:13 AM
#6
Posted November 29, 2012 - 11:25 AM
#7
Posted November 29, 2012 - 11:55 AM
#8
Posted November 29, 2012 - 12:21 PM
#9
Posted November 29, 2012 - 02:26 PM
#10
Posted November 29, 2012 - 03:45 PM
#11
Posted November 29, 2012 - 04:15 PM
#12
Posted November 29, 2012 - 04:35 PM
If the Lakers are having this much trouble keeping up with teams early in the season, what is it going to look like later on when fatigue sets in?

#13
Posted November 29, 2012 - 04:37 PM
#14
Posted November 29, 2012 - 04:53 PM
Have the Lakers looked great? No. Have the Lakers looked horrible? No.
Take out the first five games with Mike Brown as coach and look at the season with D'Antoni's system being implemented. Our one bad loss came at the hands of the Kings during that time.
Other than that? Lost to the Spurs by 2, lost to Memphis by 8 in a game where after the first quarter, we outplayed the Grizzlies and just could not get over the hump when it was close, and recently lost to Indiana by two in a game where both defenses were pretty good and both offenses were horrible.
The season has not been as bad as some are making it out to be. We are right there, even without Nash. We've beaten athletic teams like the Suns, Rockets, and Golden State, then beat a very good Brooklyn team.
At the end of the day we gotta win games, but for fans to act like we are no better than the Wizards is ignorance at its finest. This team will be fine, once we get fully healthy then we can really judge where this team is at, but the fact is we have played one full game with Nash out there and that was in Mike Brown's offense.
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#15
Posted November 29, 2012 - 05:03 PM
#16
Posted November 29, 2012 - 05:03 PM
Some of the naysayers in this thread are the same ones that freak out after every loss so that's not surprising. But anyways:
Have the Lakers looked great? No. Have the Lakers looked horrible? No.
Take out the first five games with Mike Brown as coach and look at the season with D'Antoni's system being implemented. Our one bad loss came at the hands of the Kings during that time.
Other than that? Lost to the Spurs by 2, lost to Memphis by 8 in a game where after the first quarter, we outplayed the Grizzlies and just could not get over the hump when it was close, and recently lost to Indiana by two in a game where both defenses were pretty good and both offenses were horrible.
The season has not been as bad as some are making it out to be. We are right there, even without Nash. We've beaten athletic teams like the Suns, Rockets, and Golden State, then beat a very good Brooklyn team.
At the end of the day we gotta win games, but for fans to act like we are no better than the Wizards is ignorance at its finest. This team will be fine, once we get fully healthy then we can really judge where this team is at, but the fact is we have played one full game with Nash out there and that was in Mike Brown's offense.
They've looked horrible.
The only good team the Lakers have beaten so far is Brooklyn. Brooklyn and Golden State are the only teams currently with a winning record the Lakers have beaten, and I don't really believe in Golden State.
They've lost to some horrible teams like Dallas, Portland, Sacramento, and Indiana. They're all under .500, like the Lakers currently are.
They have a bad record and they look very bad on the court.

#17
Posted November 29, 2012 - 05:54 PM
We're right where we should be considering Nash is hurt, the coaching change and lack of continuity
To start the 2007/2008 season we went 9-8 (ahem under Phil)
http://scores.espn.g...ameId=271202013
that team eventually reached 1st place about a month and a half later in January
We've had slow starts under Phil too where things haven't clicked
And then we went 25-5 after Pau..
#18
Posted November 29, 2012 - 06:40 PM
If you believe that then so be it but you're wrong. Like I said, they haven't looked great but they haven't looked horrible either.
It's been a typical roller coaster beginning to the season but we've seen flashes of greatness from this squad and seen flashes of crap from them. You have to look at the positives and negatives from them, can't be one sided about it.
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#19
Posted November 29, 2012 - 06:49 PM
They haven't looked horrible the entire season.
If you believe that then so be it but you're wrong. Like I said, they haven't looked great but they haven't looked horrible either.
It's been a typical roller coaster beginning to the season but we've seen flashes of greatness from this squad and seen flashes of crap from them. You have to look at the positives and negatives from them, can't be one sided about it.
True. But, their signs of "greatness" has come from teams that aren't going to make the playoffs. Their crap has come from all kinds of teams.
There's more negative than positive, especially when talking about this team trying to win a championship.

#20
Posted November 29, 2012 - 10:00 PM
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