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#1 manaro90

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 02:39 AM

Now we all know that Pau is our new psychological Lamar Odom and that he is just a 13,9 PPG player and Atawn Jamison is playing great off the bench in the last couple of games and DAntoni seems to trust him in this system much, he plays freely and hits his shots!

So why not try to inclued Jamison in our lineup? Just because Gasol has the bigger name on his back and the more rings doesnt make him our starter permantly, I mean the actual numbers just say it all!!!!

Plus inclueding Pau with the bench would give him not the big pressure which he has with the first unit.

Dont you think so too?

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 02:42 AM

i would be all for this proposition if dwight was 100% healthy and could pick up Jamisons slack on the boards...

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 02:48 AM

Bringing Gasol off the bench turns him into a facilitator for the second unit, and while that makes sense (he really does that anyway, just less minutes), that makes Jamison a scorer in the starting five...and we lose bench scoring, gaining nothing back on the defensive end as well.

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 03:03 AM

If we are able to find the shooters on perimeter like we did against Mavs, starting Jamison would make a lot of sense. Though, I'd wait for Nash's return if this scenario is even plausible for D'Antoni.

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 03:46 AM

Jamison will be fine as the much needed scorer off the bench. Moving Big Bird to the bench would probably do enormous damage to his Kleenex thin psyche...

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 03:49 AM

Jamison is good but he is not THAT good

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 03:53 AM

but he gets goood loks

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 04:29 AM

Bringing Gasol off the bench turns him into a facilitator for the second unit, and while that makes sense (he really does that anyway, just less minutes), that makes Jamison a scorer in the starting five...and we lose bench scoring, gaining nothing back on the defensive end as well.


And if you start hill you lose spacing but gain a ton of defense

I wonder if a

Howard
Hill
Artest
Kobe
Nash

Lineup could work

It allows for a

Gasol
Jamison
Kobe
Meeks
Blake

Bench


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Posted November 25, 2012 - 04:43 AM

And if you start hill you lose spacing but gain a ton of defense

I wonder if a

Howard
Hill
Artest
Kobe
Nash

Lineup could work

It allows for a

Gasol
Jamison
Kobe
Meeks
Blake

Bench

Yeah, but you're basically turning our bench into easily the worst defensive second unit in the NBA. Kobe's defense wouldn't be able to make up for a Gasol + Jamison duo with him in the frontcourt, along with Meeks (who isn't great on the defensive end) and Blake (who loses his man as well).

That bench could work offensively, but defensively, it would bring tears to my eyes.

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 04:52 AM

but metta could be rotated too with the 1st and 2nd unit.. then you would have a bit defensive presence..

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 06:42 AM

I just wonder how Pau's "Kleenex thin psyche" got us through three Finals runs and that Game 7 against Boston ? Was AnnoyingCustomer talking about said " Kleenex thin psyche" after that Championship?
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Posted November 25, 2012 - 06:46 AM

Jamison is good but he is not THAT good


Yeah, a couple of good games and the Pau replacement is found. Anything to get rid of Pau. Amirite?
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Posted November 25, 2012 - 07:21 AM

Jamison is good but he is not THAT good

Pau is good but he is not THAT good ALSO. I want to see
Howard
Hill
Metta
Kobe
Morrison
Follow by:
Pau
Jamison
Metta
Meeks
Duhon
Then:
Howard
Pau
Jamison
Kobe
Morrison
Follow by:
Howard
Hill
Metta
Kobe
Morrison

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 08:00 AM

Yeah, but you're basically turning our bench into easily the worst defensive second unit in the NBA. Kobe's defense wouldn't be able to make up for a Gasol + Jamison duo with him in the frontcourt, along with Meeks (who isn't great on the defensive end) and Blake (who loses his man as well).

That bench could work offensively, but defensively, it would bring tears to my eyes.


I can see how that would be an issue. In my ideal world we trade pau for a good SF and bench scorer allowing Ron to start at PF which I think he'd be awesome at


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Posted November 25, 2012 - 08:34 AM

Yeah, but you're basically turning our bench into easily the worst defensive second unit in the NBA. Kobe's defense wouldn't be able to make up for a Gasol + Jamison duo with him in the frontcourt, along with Meeks (who isn't great on the defensive end) and Blake (who loses his man as well).

That bench could work offensively, but defensively, it would bring tears to my eyes.

kobe hasn't been playing stellar defense lately

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 09:24 AM

I just wonder how Pau's "Kleenex thin psyche" got us through three Finals runs and that Game 7 against Boston ? Was AnnoyingCustomer talking about said " Kleenex thin psyche" after that Championship?


Pau played like a man back then. Now he plays like a wimp & acts like one too...

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 09:29 AM

no, I'd rather keep Pau in the starting lineup

Jamison needs to stay on the bench

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Posted November 25, 2012 - 10:55 AM

Can't afford to have a 20 million dollar bench player. Jamison is a better fit with the bench because he has a score first mentality. Pau has a pass first mentality therefore he is a better fit with the starting unit.
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Posted November 25, 2012 - 11:24 AM

sure

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted November 25, 2012 - 11:43 AM

Jamison is good but he is not THAT good


he would thrive with nash . he could be Nash's weaker version of Channing Frye

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