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#1 211275

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 09:54 PM

Why havent the Lakers done this sooner? Its amazing to see the Lakers actually getting transition points and some easy buckets rather than just walking it up the floor every time. They were one of the the only teams that walked it up the floor so often. 114 points, with lots of guys scoring. I like it.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 09:55 PM

Hopefully we won't give up 100 points a game

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 09:55 PM

We will
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Posted November 16, 2012 - 09:57 PM

Hopefully we won't give up 100 points a game


Speeding up the game means the other team gets more possessions as well. I hope they dont start giving up 105ppg but we will see.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 09:59 PM

Mike Brown, slow it down guys.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:01 PM

Suns are a high scoring team so that will happen. They average 100 points a game so far so its not like they cant score. We did what we should have done though. Scoring 114 is always a good sign.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:03 PM

Suns are a high scoring team so that will happen. They average 100 points a game so far so its not like they cant score. We did what we should have done though. Scoring 114 is always a good sign.


Agreed, and we dont even have Nash back yet!

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:07 PM

We have the pieces to be good defensively...once we get the REAL engine of the offense back (Nash), we will become even more efficient.


At one point, we were cruising at a pace to reach 150 POINTS!!!!

Hate to say it but I'm in favor of starting anyone but Pau at the 4 (meaning Hill or Jamison). Pau's has not helped Dwight out at all this year. When Dwight rotates over to protect the rim, Pau HAS to pick up Dwight's man, knowing that's where the pass will be going...

Morris had a setback tonight but I think he's still better suited to lead this type of offense than Duhon and possibly Blake.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:12 PM

We won't be hearing "We want tacos!" chants anymore

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:28 PM

Idk if our team can survive this, tbh.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:32 PM

Suns were averaging 99 points a game coming into tonights game, ranked 7th in the league, a little higher than OKC. Team's like that are going to score the ball, but will have trouble scoring. At least we can get stops when we needed.

More possesions = more chances to score for both sides. This was a good test against an athletic team.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:35 PM

Suns were averaging 99 points a game coming into tonights game, ranked 7th in the league, a little higher than OKC. Team's like that are going to score the ball, but will have trouble scoring. At least we can get stops when we needed.

More possesions = more chances to score for both sides. This was a good test against an athletic team.

Yea I think this game shows we can run against an athletic team.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:36 PM

Phoenix is a terrible defensive team. Can't really say pushing the ball is working until we play somebody who actually plays that end of the floor. Only 11 turnovers tonight though (I think), that was good. A win is a win, I won't say I'm unhappy of course. But the Suns aren't exactly a good measuring stick for the offense.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:37 PM

We have the pieces to be good defensively...once we get the REAL engine of the offense back (Nash), we will become even more efficient.


At one point, we were cruising at a pace to reach 150 POINTS!!!!

Hate to say it but I'm in favor of starting anyone but Pau at the 4 (meaning Hill or Jamison). Pau's has not helped Dwight out at all this year. When Dwight rotates over to protect the rim, Pau HAS to pick up Dwight's man, knowing that's where the pass will be going...

Morris had a setback tonight but I think he's still better suited to lead this type of offense than Duhon and possibly Blake.


agreed, pau was ball watching on defense too much this game


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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:42 PM

Before tonight, the Suns came in allowing 104 PPG (29th in the NBA), allowing 47.4% FG (28th) and 44.1% 3PT (30th), 28th in opponent rebounds and 30th in opponent assists. Total defense, 29th in the NBA (and probably 30th after tonight).

So let's not jump to conclusions. We ran a team off the court that has wins over Detroit, Charlotte, Cleveland, and a busted-up, unhealthy Nuggets squad...and a team that is arguably the worst defensive team in the league.

It's fine to push the tempo a bit (never been against that, only against running a run-and-gun offense...two different things), but we can't get carried away because teams that are exceptional back on defense will shut us down, and by the time the end of the third rolls in, a majority of our veterans will be gassed. It's not the running that tires a basketball player, it's how much it takes out of them to score and defend...but, when you run, it's tougher to score when you're much older.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:47 PM

Before tonight, the Suns came in allowing 104 PPG (29th in the NBA), allowing 47.4% FG (28th) and 44.1% 3PT (30th), 28th in opponent rebounds and 30th in opponent assists. Total defense, 29th in the NBA (and probably 30th after tonight).

So let's not jump to conclusions. We ran a team off the court that has wins over Detroit, Charlotte, Cleveland, and a busted-up, unhealthy Nuggets squad...and a team that is arguably the worst defensive team in the league.

It's fine to push the tempo a bit (never been against that, only against running a run-and-gun offense...two different things), but we can't get carried away because teams that are exceptional back on defense will shut us down, and by the time the end of the third rolls in, a majority of our veterans will be gassed. It's not the running that tires a basketball player, it's how much it takes out of them to score and defend...but, when you run, it's tougher to score when you're much older.


then what that says to me is our bench is going to need to take a bigger amount of the reigns and that Duhon can NOT remain in an active rotation for much longer if he plays D like tonight. I thought he was supposed to be good at defense?

Edited by Majesty, November 16, 2012 - 10:48 PM.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 10:58 PM

then what that says to me is our bench is going to need to take a bigger amount of the reigns and that Duhon can NOT remain in an active rotation for much longer if he plays D like tonight. I thought he was supposed to be good at defense?

Duhon isn't good at anything anymore. Thank God he's only shot the ball six times total this season.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 11:00 PM

one game a time..

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 11:40 PM

The key will be balancing it once they have a proper grasp of the offense. The uptempo style will improve the offense but it's trying to incorporate some type of defence with it which can be tough in this system.

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Posted November 16, 2012 - 11:56 PM

fast pace system = better bench production, which in turn makes them less susceptible to losing their confidence

That's how I see it at least

Edited by alec613, November 16, 2012 - 11:57 PM.

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