Kobe>jordan. That guy was a loser. so glad he got bannedWasn't there a poster who said we weren't trading for Howard because the lakers insisted on keeping Morris and mcroberts
#21
Posted November 16, 2012 - 04:18 PM
NBA CBA - http://www.nba.com/..../PDF/CBA101.pdf
#22
Posted November 16, 2012 - 04:44 PM
#23
Posted November 16, 2012 - 04:49 PM
No Morris, no trade
#24
Posted November 17, 2012 - 11:18 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers have had internal discussions for several months about acquiring Josh Smith from the Atlanta Hawks, according to sources.
Sources say, however, that the Hawks have no interest in trading Smith for a package centered around Pau Gasol.
Smith is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent in the offseason.
For the Lakers, trading Gasol for Smith would allow the team to get younger and more athletic. Moreover, Smith is one of Dwight Howard's closest friends in the NBA.
Via Marc Stein
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#25
Posted November 17, 2012 - 11:28 AM
#26
Posted November 17, 2012 - 11:29 AM
#27
Posted November 17, 2012 - 11:32 AM
Some in the media are still talking about a potential Josh Smith trade sending him and other players to the Los Angeles Lakers for Pau Gasol, but for many reason it's not going to happen.
ESPN.com's Marc Stein writes: "Sources say that the Hawks, at present, have no interest in parting with Josh Smith and Kyle Korver for Gasol. Or even Smith and lesser parts for Gasol. Positions can obviously change between now and the Feb. 21 trade deadline, but sources maintain that Atlanta has not been enticed in the least by the prospect of parting with the 26-year-old Smith -- even as he heads into unrestricted free agency -- for the 32-year-old Gasol. The Hawks, for the record, have also been telling interested teams that they value Smith and what he offers as a hybrid forward in an Eastern Conference that's generally been getting smaller."
Smith's contract, paying $13.2 million in 2012-13, expires after this season, while Gasol deal pays him $38.28 million through 2013-14.
#28
Posted November 17, 2012 - 11:49 AM
I reckon a 3 team trade with the Rockets might work for some young pieces etc goign to atlanta and Pau going to the rockets.
Probably the most likely scenario.
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#29
Posted November 17, 2012 - 12:18 PM
#30
Posted November 18, 2012 - 02:31 AM
At this point Atlanta are probably hoping that the Dwight-LA-D'Antoni-project isn't working and that they can sign him in the offseason.
They'd be able to sign both Howard and Smith, while having Teague and Lou Williams.
The problem is that they may end up with nothing, if Smith decides to sign elsewhere.
#31
Posted November 18, 2012 - 02:59 AM
Everyone you have to get real here. Pau's salary next season is 19+ million. He is right now the 9th highest paid player in the league yet the guy is putting up horrible stats and cant play defense.
Gasol isn't even gonna come close to being an All star this year and will probably have one of his worst years so far(by the rate he is going). The only thing we could get for pau is a bunch of scrubs that match his salary. Do not expect him to be traded for smith in a three way because there is absolutely no team that would want a average player who is getting paid 19+ mill.
You can go on about how mitch got howard and we got pau for kwame but those are much easier than this. We were the best offer for the magic so of course we got howard when they were willing to trade. And we got pau for a lot more than kwame. Mitch is good but he cant just convince a team to take a 19+ mill player who isnt even a all star for young players + draft picks so we can do a 3 way trade.
Unless pau goes on a crazy streak of great basketball (which will not happen) then his trade value will be worth nothing.
Face it were stuck with pau. Might as well make the best of it.
NBA CBA - http://www.nba.com/..../PDF/CBA101.pdf
#32
Posted November 18, 2012 - 04:20 AM
No team would trade a bunch of players for pau.
Everyone you have to get real here. Pau's salary next season is 19+ million. He is right now the 9th highest paid player in the league yet the guy is putting up horrible stats and cant play defense.
Gasol isn't even gonna come close to being an All star this year and will probably have one of his worst years so far(by the rate he is going). The only thing we could get for pau is a bunch of scrubs that match his salary. Do not expect him to be traded for smith in a three way because there is absolutely no team that would want a average player who is getting paid 19+ mill.
You can go on about how mitch got howard and we got pau for kwame but those are much easier than this. We were the best offer for the magic so of course we got howard when they were willing to trade. And we got pau for a lot more than kwame. Mitch is good but he cant just convince a team to take a 19+ mill player who isnt even a all star for young players + draft picks so we can do a 3 way trade.
Unless pau goes on a crazy streak of great basketball (which will not happen) then his trade value will be worth nothing.
Face it were stuck with pau. Might as well make the best of it.
Nonsense!
His stats haven't been that great this season, but with a new system, the firing of Mike Brown and hiring of D'Antoni, this season have been a total mess so far. No wonder he is struggling a bit. By your logic, we should trade Nash as well, since he have been our second worst pg these first few games.
According to 82games.com and Hoopdata, Pau is having a very solid year defensively, so your're wrong on that one too.
Will he be an allstar - perhaps not, but if we start winning, he will certainly be close and easily could make the team.
What can we get for him? Several teams have players who will become FAs next season: Millsap, Josh Smith and David West just to name a few. These teams may want to do business now, rather than lose their guy for nothing.
#33
Posted November 18, 2012 - 04:22 AM
#34
Posted November 18, 2012 - 04:22 AM
Nonsense!
His stats haven't been that great this season, but with a new system, the firing of Mike Brown and hiring of D'Antoni, this season have been a total mess so far. No wonder he is struggling a bit. By your logic, we should trade Nash as well, since he have been our second worst pg these first few games.
According to 82games.com and Hoopdata, Pau is having a very solid year defensively, so your're wrong on that one too.
Will he be an allstar - perhaps not, but if we start winning, he will certainly be close and easily could make the team.
What can we get for him? Several teams have players who will become FAs next season: Millsap, Josh Smith and David West just to name a few. These teams may want to do business now, rather than lose their guy for nothing.
Nash played 1 game and was hurt 1/4th of the way through the next one. Gasol has played every game and is stinking it up. No comparison...
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#35
Posted November 18, 2012 - 04:28 AM
Nash played 1 game and was hurt 1/4th of the way through the next one. Gasol has played every game and is stinking it up. No comparison...
Pau have played in 9 games, under two different coaches, in a highly complicated system. Lets give these guys a bit of time to work it out. If Pau is still struggling in late December, then we trade him.
#36
Posted November 18, 2012 - 04:32 AM
Pau have played in 9 games, under two different coaches, in a highly complicated system. Lets give these guys a bit of time to work it out. If Pau is still struggling in late December, then we trade him.
And Pau played this way in Phil's last season too. Seems to me that the coach isn't the issue, it's Pau's head...
"You know you're a nitpicker. You're just a picker of nits..."
-Ralph Garman, The Kevin & Bean Show, KROQ
#37
Posted November 18, 2012 - 05:05 AM
Pau have played in 9 games, under two different coaches, in a highly complicated system. Lets give these guys a bit of time to work it out. If Pau is still struggling in late December, then we trade him.
Mr Owl how many years' does it take before people realize 2008 Pau Gasol is gone?
If we somehow land Dwight Howard AND Nash (which is one of the biggest reaches I've posted, don't think that will happen), then yeah...I have no problem with it, because Howard won't allow anyone to take Nash off the dribble 30+ minutes a game.
You should reach more often
#38
Posted November 18, 2012 - 06:02 AM
Pau have played in 9 games, under two different coaches, in a highly complicated system. Lets give these guys a bit of time to work it out. If Pau is still struggling in late December, then we trade him.
Bull[expletive] excuses. He's been pathetic for FAR longer than just 9 games.
#39
Posted November 18, 2012 - 06:47 AM
#40
Posted November 18, 2012 - 07:16 AM
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