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[Majesty]

I don't think of Deshaun Stevenson as a scorer...I think of him more like an older quality wing defender that can make a spot up shot once in a while. But I agree on the other 2.

As for Granger, yes he is out for another 3 months. BUT, if we can get a replacement 4 (like David West) for the time being, I have no problem doing that trade today. An athletic 3 who can shoot and defend is needed moreso than a guy like Josh Smith. But JSmoove does give Howard a good friend to continue on with...

It also gives us one of the fiercest 2-5 defensive lineups in the league

Kobe at the 2
Artest at the 3
Smith at the 4
Howard at the 5

Imagine

Also how wide would Nash's eyes get on a fast break with both Howard and Smith O_O

Edited by Majesty, November 14, 2012 - 10:49 PM.

[Calisupra2nr]

Yes that is certainly one of the best defensive lineups in the league. If not for Nash, it would be incredible all around. As for JSmoove landing on the Lakers, I just think its a hard fit in D'Antoni's system of wing shooters and stretch 4s. Smith for whatever reason loves to shoot midrange (last year Hollinger wrote many a times criticizing him) and he is not a particularly good shooter. We need a 4 who can shoot when Howard and Nash are going to work. Fast breaks would be amazing no doubt, but when Nash and Howard start screen rolls, and Kobe is the only viable shooter on the floor...it makes easier for the defense to slip, instead of keeping them honest with a stretch 4.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

It also gives us one of the fiercest 2-5 defensive lineups in the league

Kobe at the 2
Artest at the 3
Smith at the 4
Howard at the 5

Imagine

Also how wide would Nash's eyes get on a fast break with both Howard and Smith O_O

It also gives us terrible spacing on offense.

[Hollywood]

It also gives us one of the fiercest 2-5 defensive lineups in the league

Kobe at the 2
Artest at the 3
Smith at the 4
Howard at the 5

Imagine

Also how wide would Nash's eyes get on a fast break with both Howard and Smith O_O

Trade artest too hes terrible

[Majesty]

It also gives us terrible spacing on offense.

How does it give us worse spacing on offense?

[Nak]

At least we all agree that we must trade Pau ASAP.

[LakeShow805]

It also gives us terrible spacing on offense.

it would be the same spacing.

[iDreamShake]

it would be the same spacing.

[lakersince75]

You guys act like Dwight is a TRUE Seven Footer and we would survive with another undersized big. Let's not forget how Pau alters shots and shoots over opponents because he is a TRUE center. Let's not forget he is not only our starting PF but he's also our Back Up center. Let's not forget who's the only consistant big man we've had for years (damn near injury free) Everyone who wants to get rid of Pau, please align his stats with the top 5 PF's and Centers in the league over the last 3 years and tell me what you get. I'll also bet that Pau holds his opponents to less points than Kobe held his. And he's done all this while being surrounded by trade rumors for years.

[Windu]

You guys act like Dwight is a TRUE Seven Footer and we would survive with another undersized big. Let's not forget how Pau alters shots and shoots over opponents because he is a TRUE center. Let's not forget he is not only our starting PF but he's also our Back Up center. Let's not forget who's the only consistant big man we've had for years (damn near injury free) Everyone who wants to get rid of Pau, please align his stats with the top 5 PF's and Centers in the league over the last 3 years and tell me what you get. I'll also bet that Pau holds his opponents to less points than Kobe held his. And he's done all this while being surrounded by trade rumors for years.

I've been waiting for this.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with your first sentence. Are you implying that Pau is somehow in the same class as Dwight Howard? Pau may alter shots but it's damn sure not because of his effort or ability...it's because of his length.

Consistent regular season-wise sure...but have you watched him the last two playoffs? And in the regular season, he still gets pwned by players who don't make anymore near as much money as he does.

He's one of the most overrated and soft players to have ever lace em up.

[lakersince75]

Have you looked at the entire team the last two playoffs?? Overpayed yes. Still better than most yes

[fido]

Never know what you've got till it's gone.

[Japago]

Have you looked at the entire team the last two playoffs?? Overpayed yes. Still better than most yes

It doesn't excuse his play. The Lakers may not have been as good as their championship years, but Pau has been straight up embarrassing the last 2 postseasons. 13 pts on 42% shooting is awful for a big man.

And, teams play small these days. You don't win with size anymore in this league. The Heat, Thunder, Celtics, and Spurs all play a ton of small ball. The Lakers need to adjust to the rest of the league. It doesn't do any good for the Lakers to have 2 7 footers if they can't keep up with other teams.

OP, are you by any chance the poster formerly known as pointguard11 and ab4sure?

[Japago]

They need to get a SF. If the Lakers get a PF, you're still slow on the perimeter with MWP, Kobe, and Nash. I think trading Pau for a SF along with moving Metta to PF would help the Lakers defend quicker teams.

[Calisupra2nr]

OP, are you by any chance the poster formerly known as pointguard11 and ab4sure?

no who are those members and why the connection? I am a new poster, but have visited the forum for years..

[Lakers4Life]

Who remembers this Pau?



and this Pau gasol....


Thats what he used to be.

[Majesty]

Never know what you've got till it's gone.

You also never know what you got till it arrives.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

How does it give us worse spacing on offense?

Are you serious? Smith is a far less consistent outside shorter than Pau. That's how.

[True Lakers Fan]

Are you serious? Smith is a far less consistent outside shorter than Pau. That's how.

you mean inconsistent lol