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[Calisupra2nr]

Vote in the poll. My examples in the poll are just that...examples. Please note that we should assume all options available at this point because the idea of trading Pau is speculative anyway.

[Nak]

Stretch 4 + bench depth. We need a floor-spacing PF who can hit 3s consistently and especially the bench needs scoring help ASAP. 20ppg is just awful for a contender.

[Calisupra2nr]

Stretch 4 + bench depth. We need a floor-spacing PF who can hit 3s consistently and especially the bench needs scoring help ASAP. 20ppg is just awful for a contender.

But think about this scenario. We trade Pau for say, Danny Granger (after he recovers). We move Jamison from bench to starting PF as a stretch 4. Trade or send MWP away from team until amnesty period if he is unwilling to come off bench. I think that solves a lot of issues, but our bench still needs help. Which is why I vote that if we can move Pau for a Granger/Gay contract we will be saving money and should look to sign Delonte West. Having a bench unit of West, Meeks, Ebanks, Hill is OK with me. Especially since we will see a 9 man rotation come playoff time with D'Antoni.

[West Coast]

But think about this scenario. We trade Pau for say, Danny Granger (after he recovers). We move Jamison from bench to starting PF as a stretch 4. Trade or send MWP away from team until amnesty period if he is unwilling to come off bench. I think that solves a lot of issues, but our bench still needs help. Which is why I vote that if we can move Pau for a Granger/Gay contract we will be saving money and should look to sign Delonte West. Having a bench unit of West, Meeks, Ebanks, Hill is OK with me. Especially since we will see a 9 man rotation come playoff time with D'Antoni.

That's a lot of factors going into one scenario.

[Hollywood]

There are like 5 trade Pau threads

[JGuez]

I agree with the stretch 4 option, but who?

[JSaber20]

Where is the "Backup PG+Starting SF" option?

And we have Jamison who is stretch 4 anyways, no need to get another.

Edited by JSaber20, November 14, 2012 - 01:15 PM.

[L.A.K.E.R]

There are like 5 trade Pau threads

It's like Christmas for Windu.

[bfc1125roy]

I'd be in full support of the quality PF or SF. As per the stretch four/bench depth, it would really depend. I wouldn't do many of those trades suggested here.

[L.A.K.E.R]

A legitimate starting SF is most important for this team. MWP is a definite weak link for us because he can't fulfill his job on a nightly basis. If he's going to be getting that many FGA, he needs to start knocking them down with some consistency. We absolutely can't handle 4-14 shooting nights from a guy who is getting the majority of his shots off on wide open looks.

One deal that was mentioned a while back by someone on these boards was David West + Danny Granger for Pau. If Mitch were to somehow swing that kind of deal, it would be excellent for us. Hell, I'd take Danny Granger + some other filler straight up for Pau Gasol. We'd simply shift Jamison to the starting 4 (or Hill, if we wanted better defense/rebounding), start Granger, and maybe bring MWP off the bench as a 6th man.

Nash/Kobe/Granger/Jamison/Howard is a very good lineup with a quicker Nash-centric system under D'Antoni. A healthy Dwight Howard is capable of manning the paint for us, Granger isn't a liability offensively like Artest, and we surround Dwight with capable shooters from 1-4. Granger isn't some elite SF on the level of LeBron or Durant, but he's a borderline All-Star when he's healthy and his shooting ability would be great in stretching the floor for us. The Pacers have been without him to start the season and they've struggled greatly without him available to stretch the floor and chip in his usual 17+ ppg. If he's healthy, I wouldn't mind dealing Pau for a package with Granger as the centerpiece. He's exactly the kind of SF we need in our starting lineup.

I don't know how likely such a trade is, but I'm not going to doubt Mitch. If he sees a good deal on the market and Pau hasn't acclimated to our new system, I could see him pulling the trigger with no hesitation.

[Busty Bluth]

Where is the "Backup PG+Starting SF" option?

And we have Jamison who is stretch 4 anyways, no need to get another.

pretty much this.

[Majesty]

A Combination of

Josh Smith + Anthony Morrow

Josh Smith + Kyle Korver

or

Josh Smith + Deshawn Stevenson which is likely.

Edited by Majesty, November 14, 2012 - 02:15 PM.

[iDreamShake]

Where is the "Backup PG+Starting SF" option?

And we have Jamison who is stretch 4 anyways, no need to get another.

[jax24]

I would take any of them. I do prefer the SF option for most of the reasons L.A.K.E.R mentioned. He would give us an athletic wing who can actually make shots, create his own and penetrate. He would also suit a DAntoni style offense and is also a good defender. Also he has 2 years left on his contract like Pau so the cap space for 2014 is still intact and if he doesn't work out he is an expiring next year. Only worry is he is injured obviously, but should be back by the trade deadline. I see Granger alot more of a realistic trade than Gay, but wouldn't mind Gay if it was possible. Also I wouldn't mind a Deng trade as well. All I know is a change is needed to improve this team. Gasol has shown as talented as he is he has become replaceable due to his lackluster performances and inconsistent play. He is definitely not the only one on the team but he still has some trade value, unlike MWP and Blakte.

[Busty Bluth]

A Combination of

Josh Smith + Anthony Morrow

Josh Smith + Kyle Korver

or

Josh Smith + Deshawn Stevenson which is likely.

So any trade for josh smith will do?

IMO those trades above won't make us better.

[Hollywood]

im not so high on Smith either

[Calisupra2nr]

I would be in favor of getting a quality, athletic SF. Granger would honestly be great for us. The idea of David West and Granger for Pau sounds too good to be true, but if it is ever possible, that would be a perfect trade. Literally perfect.

[Majesty]

So any trade for josh smith will do?

IMO those trades above won't make us better.

each gives us an extra scorer off the bench and each gives us Smith at the 4 who will give a better effort than Gasol and is shooting about the same from the outside as Gasol, the other thing is Smith is a better defender and will give more effort and is also more athletic than Gasol. He's not as good of a passer but I don't think we'd have a lineup with him in there to be a designated passer.

Having Morrow, Korver or Stevenson on our bench is an added scorer which would allow us to run a lot with the bench unit which would help us out tremendously to be honest.

We add an additional shooter to our bench which I have no problem with and it helps us a lot.

So we get Smith + a scorer for our bench. That helps us out a lot . Probably would be the best we could hope for unless you think we're getting Love from Minnesota.

So tell me why you think getting Josh Smith + an additional scorer for our bench doesn't help us?

I would be in favor of getting a quality, athletic SF. Granger would honestly be great for us. The idea of David West and Granger for Pau sounds too good to be true, but if it is ever possible, that would be a perfect trade. Literally perfect.

Granger is out for 3 months isn't he? Do we really want to bring him in that late into the season and have to adjust him to the team chemistry while also getting him back in shape?

Edited by Majesty, November 14, 2012 - 10:24 PM.

[last stand 2.0]

i actually wouldn't mind getting a healthy granger. you could slide ron to PF where i believe he'd be less of an issue.

howard
ron
granger
kobe
nash

thats some defense right there. Gay is pipe just because they have randolph, speights, and marc. there isn't a use for pau.

[Calisupra2nr]

each gives us an extra scorer off the bench and each gives us Smith at the 4 who will give a better effort than Gasol and is shooting about the same from the outside as Gasol, the other thing is Smith is a better defender and will give more effort and is also more athletic than Gasol. He's not as good of a passer but I don't think we'd have a lineup with him in there to be a designated passer.

Having Morrow, Korver or Stevenson on our bench is an added scorer which would allow us to run a lot with the bench unit which would help us out tremendously to be honest.

We add an additional shooter to our bench which I have no problem with and it helps us a lot.

So we get Smith + a scorer for our bench. That helps us out a lot . Probably would be the best we could hope for unless you think we're getting Love from Minnesota.

So tell me why you think getting Josh Smith + an additional scorer for our bench doesn't help us?




Granger is out for 3 months isn't he? Do we really want to bring him in that late into the season and have to adjust him to the team chemistry while also getting him back in shape?

I don't think of Deshaun Stevenson as a scorer...I think of him more like an older quality wing defender that can make a spot up shot once in a while. But I agree on the other 2.

As for Granger, yes he is out for another 3 months. BUT, if we can get a replacement 4 (like David West) for the time being, I have no problem doing that trade today. An athletic 3 who can shoot and defend is needed moreso than a guy like Josh Smith. But JSmoove does give Howard a good friend to continue on with...