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Howard, Nash, and The Triangle

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#1 West Coast

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Posted November 10, 2012 - 05:16 PM

I know there are some people who think this team can't run the triangle, which is completely false. Well here are some bits about how Dwight and Nash would fit in courtesy of Kevin Ding:

(I know it's not a done deal but it's for discussion)

For Nash, pick and rolls are available within triangle. Phil also is good at saving specific P&R sets for ...

fourth quarters or even just playoff games. So Nash should be fresh to run those late in games without wearing down from lugging the ball all game long, all season long.

Nash's fantastic shooting ability will be maximized in the triangle even if his passing ability is somewhat marginalized by the triangle being a two-guard front. (Both guards can handle the ball or initiate the offense.) But don't even count on that, necessarily, because Kobe will play mostly on the wing (small forward) in the triangle to be closer to the basket and not facing the whole defense. With Metta or anyone else kinda sketchy at playing the guard position, Nash might have to initiate the offense more than Phil's usual point guards.

Phil is also open to shifting away from the triangle for longer stretches if personnel dictates it. He did that with Michael Jordan and will embrace the challenge of winning a title for the first time with a star point guard.

Regarding Phil's offense for Dwight, center is easiest position in triangle to learn. Key difference between ...

Princeton and triangle is that Princeton pulls big guys away from the basket, whereas the triangle very much emphasizes the post. The real name of the triangle is actually the "triple-post offense."

So the triangle will fit Dwight, who will be way better than Andrew Bynum at running the floor for deep post position as the first option in the early offense. Dwight isn't a great passer, but he is very experienced at looking for guys from the post. Shaq wasn't a great passer either, but he got comfortable just looking for cutters and then going for what he knows or kicking it out to shooters with the floor spaced well.

Phil also would save pick-and-rolls for Kobe and Shaq (and sometimes Kobe and Pau) until the fourth quarter to gash opponents unprepared for them and unconditioned that night to defend them. Same will go for Kobe and Dwight or Nash and Dwight.

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Posted November 10, 2012 - 05:28 PM


I love West Coast hes on the best coast, scraping fake analyst off the forums like asbestos

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Posted November 10, 2012 - 05:30 PM

Good read.

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Posted November 11, 2012 - 02:45 PM

His analysis took a HUGE hit when he said Shaq wasn't a great passer...that's not only false but so far from the truth, it's not even funny. Only true post players that were in the same league as Shaq as a passer over the past 25 years are Divac, Webber and Sabonis.

PGs play the game from a certain POV. They see the game like chess players. They are Type A, driven, consummate and perfectionists. They also are control freaks. Saying a prototypical PG will "find his way" in an offense designed to increase ball movement, spacing and decrease the reliance on ball dominance or playmakers is laughable. That's basketball 101. We could possibly get away with molding Morris into a Triangle PG (who is young and still fairly pliable) but to say we are going change a 39 year old PG who has made a living doing the opposite of what a lead guard does in the Triangle?


If anything, this opens the door to bring Fish back as a player or assistant coach.


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Posted November 11, 2012 - 02:47 PM

Nash can learn the triangle just fine

Pau Gasol is GONE

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