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#61 larry14r

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 05:51 PM

We'd upgrade defensively and downgrade offensively.


We have not even BEGUN to tap into Pau's potential in the P&R with Nash...


We better tap it fast before things get ugly here.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 05:55 PM

The biggest problem isn't Gasol, but the Lakers aren't going to get anything by trying to trade MWP or Blake. Heck, I doubt you find somebody that will straight up take them in a salary dump.

You gotta trade something of value to get something back.



Exactly. He is the only trade chip that can improve our team drastically. Pau will always put up good numbers statistically so he will always have value. The fact is we really need speed, defence, athleticism and 3 point shooting to be a true title contender. Only way we can get a quality player or players is by trading Pau. Ive always liked Pau but sometimes you have to sacrifice a good player for the overall betterment of the team. If we don't I'm not fussed but it will be difficult to upgrade our team otherwise. If Mitch can work his magic and improve our team by trading Blake,Duhon,MWP I'm all for it but that will be very very tough. Hope he can otherwise Pau is the most viable option.



We should have shipped out Gasol back in the 2011 offseason. Gasol has never been the same player after the "Fiasco Trade" and he has actually regressed. He is still a very good player offensively but I think he is really struggling defensively. Nowitzki ate him alive in the 2011 playoffs and he couldn't even outplay Serge Ibaka in the last playoff series vs OKC.

The biggest need the Lakers have right now is athleticism and age: Pau is everything but an athletic, physical player, so it would make sense to trade him for young athletic PFs regardless of their offensive capacity. We've got Howard as our primary post threat then we only need a stretch 4 (Jamison) and also an athletic defender and rebounder (Josh Smith, for instance). Therefore, the best move the Lakers can make is to trade Pau Gasol for a young athletic PF AND get rid of MWP as soon as possible.

I'm a Spaniard, I'm a big fan of Pau but I realize his time in Lakerland has come to an end.



I would be glad getting Howard's best friend Josh Smith I was with it from the get go. Smith gets buckets, plays D, can run the floor, chances down PGs, young, blocking machine. Plus, he is pretty damn good in the pick and roll and pick and pop



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Posted November 03, 2012 - 05:57 PM

We better tap it fast before things get ugly here.


No chance of that happening until Nash returns.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 05:59 PM

We'd upgrade defensively and downgrade offensively.


We have not even BEGUN to tap into Pau's potential in the P&R with Nash...

we have enough offense imo, plus josh smith can pass, rebound, block shot etc. pretty much everything gasol does. him being as good a post player isn't really needed considering we have D12 for that.


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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:04 PM

Lock this dumbass thread.

#66 BleedPurple&Gold

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:07 PM

lol you act like Josh can't get buckets.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:08 PM

we have enough offense imo, plus josh smith can pass, rebound, block shot etc. pretty much everything gasol does. him being as good a post player isn't really needed considering we have D12 for that.


Agree to disagree.

If we were in the 7 sec offense, you could make a case for that.
In the Princeton, Pau is perfect.


I see nothing in Smith's game to suggest he'd be capable of producing on offense like Pau.



On defense, SMith would be a huge upgrade in transition and help D...granted...but will it be enough to offset the offensive blow?


Moving Pau now before we hand the offensive reins over to Nash is the very definition of premature...

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:14 PM

Pau is not even producing, not in the post and damn sure not from the mid, he does on finding other players though. Smith can score inside and out, can score in the pick and roll and pick and pop, can score on offensive rebounds and transition points. He find ways to score just by being active, which he ends up with about 15-20 points a game . Plus, he is a good passer too.

I'll give him by trade deadline though to be fair. I like Pau too by the way.

Edited by BleedPurple&Gold, November 03, 2012 - 06:23 PM.

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#69 GCMD

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:19 PM

When they run the Princeton correctly and consistently, Pau has been very effective.

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#70 BleedPurple&Gold

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:19 PM

When they run the Princeton correctly and consistently, Pau has been very effective.


Yeah true, but have to stop the other team from scoring too.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 06:49 PM

Yeah true, but have to stop the other team from scoring too.


And that's not all on Pau...so why should he be moved?


If Brown was NOT the coach of this team, there is no way we would discuss this.



Because Brown is our coach, I consider this a valid option.
Because Brown wants to run the Princeton, keeping Pau is important.


Once the offense gets going, Brown's defensive schemes will help with Pau's defensive limitations...


Now...if Brown abandons the Princeton, gives Nash the reins and changes the team's focus to D, Smith would be the obvious choice....but that's too many changes. It is more likely that Brown is canned before all of that happens...which means, Pau not likely moved...

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#72 BleedPurple&Gold

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 07:22 PM

[expletive] that still need to be traded for Josh Smith.

Edited by BleedPurple&Gold, November 03, 2012 - 07:29 PM.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 07:45 PM

[expletive] that still need to be traded for Josh Smith.


That doesn't solve all of our problems.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 07:47 PM

That doesn't solve all of our problems.


I don't care.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 07:54 PM

I don't care.


And with that, I'm out...

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#76 BleedPurple&Gold

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 07:56 PM

And with that, I'm out...


:hi:

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 08:25 PM

trading pau for josh smith just makes our collective B-ball IQ way less. i don't see anyone worth trading Gasol for


The Lakers don't even need to get the best player back in the trade. I would take a downgrade at PF to upgrade at SF. SF needs to be upgraded. Metta can't be relied on to do anything anymore.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 08:33 PM

I don't care.

So you just want to trade Pau because you hate him and don't care if the team gets worse because of it.
Some fan...

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 08:36 PM

So you just want to trade Pau because you hate him and don't care if the team gets worse because of it.
Some fan...


Obviously someone hasn't been reading my posts.

Edited by BleedPurple&Gold, November 03, 2012 - 08:44 PM.

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Posted November 03, 2012 - 08:41 PM

The Lakers don't even need to get the best player back in the trade. I would take a downgrade at PF to upgrade at SF. SF needs to be upgraded. Metta can't be relied on to do anything anymore.


if indiana wants to go granger and west then that's something i'd like but looking around the league i see nothing. maybe we can snag tyreke evans from sacramento considering they don't want to resign him but are we really gonna give up pau for jason thompson and tyreke evans

and what does tyreke evans even play here, and the kings would never trade a damn thing to the lakers even if they get the better player

those are the only two potential deals i even considered to be worth moving gasol
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