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#101 bigvee

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:27 PM

i've seen enough of lamb, more than anyone on here, to tell you he isn't a typical move off the ball shooter. he's not jodie meeks. this guy has a legitimate skill set, he's a sniper, he has a nasty floater, he can handle the ball, he has great athleticism

his only issue is aggressiveness which will not be an issue because he'll come off the bench.

lamb will contribute a ton right off the bat because his skill set is incredibly translatable to the NBA game. Ray allen, Rip Hamilton, Ben gordon all UCONN guys that were able to contribute right away because they knew how to create space and were snipers

lamb will follow in their footsteps

I still don't think he'll be the same player with an NBA defender chasing him through screens

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:28 PM

That Kevin Martin $13 mil expiring and Toronto pick are gonna be very useful for OKC at the trade deadline. It will be interesting how OKC deals with that

And Lamb reminds me of Kevin Martin really lol 2005 to 2008 Sac Kings guy. He was lethal. Good scorer, draws lots of FTs, hits 3s.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:31 PM

kevin martin was gonna be a legit 20ppg scorer for his entire career before the injuries. it's too bad because that guy could flat out score. i don't think most people remember how good he was back then
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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:34 PM

I still don't think he'll be the same player with an NBA defender chasing him through screens


depends. Jim Calhoun coaches up players

just look at the lineage, i think lamb is just next in line. i doubt he gets as good as ray allen, but i can definitely see rip hamilton level stuff from him.

he's got a quick release though. that thing comes out about as quick as anyones shot
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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:44 PM

wow. Didn't expect that at all, you don't normally see contenders trade away a star after a NBA Finals run.

Decent deal, I'm not a fan of KMart though he seems douchey.

EDIT: This is like the Howard deal people saying this is a bad trade, Harden wanted max and they didn't want to go into luxury tax so they traded him for KMart expiring and a young player in Jeremy Lamb and draft picks.
It's not obvious now but they trade will help the Thunder in the future to stay young and cheap.

Edited by JSaber20, October 27, 2012 - 08:53 PM.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:50 PM

It's funny how nobody talks about Martin's defense .....

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 08:58 PM

Yikes

https://twitter.com/...417055209361408

38% of Harden's shots were in the restricted area last year. Martin? 14%.


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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:08 PM

This is a bad trade for OKC.

1 those draft picks are protected so if they could easily lose some.

2. Jeremy lamb will probably be good but not for a few year and OKC needs to be good now. I say this because of my next reason.

3. Money Money Money. something OKC isn't willing to spend. They have been lucky and have had there players take some pay cuts but that isnt going to last. Players values are gonna go up and OKC has all there money in westbrook and durant. your gonna see this harden thing happen more and more. Problem is in about 2-3 years there gonna have to pay a lot of money to a lot of guy if they want these guys at there peak or near peak. Tehy got lucky and got a few guys to take pay cuts but I can guarantee you that wont happen again. Player will want money and they will defiantly want it at there peak

You can say they will be good in the future but unless when that future comes and they are willing to pay I doubt this team will have any of these main guys still here.

Ever sense we had that close series with OKC a few years back I have been saying that they wont be able to keep all these guys. They are a small market and westbrook and durant who cant do it all themselves.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:11 PM

The only reason they were able to keep him was because they had there stars basically on rookie contracts.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:23 PM

If the Rockets offer Harden a 5th year, the difference between that and the OKC offer is apparently 20 mil according to Stein

https://twitter.com/...423276880556032

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:26 PM

If the Rockets offer Harden a 5th year, the difference between that and the OKC offer is apparently 20 mil according to Stein

https://twitter.com/...423276880556032


Thing is though I dont blame harden. You only get a certain amount of time to make the money. I can understand at the end of your carrer to take less but when your young and making the most of your carrer you got to take it.

Theres sacrifice and theres just a smart move.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:33 PM

Hilarious. From a post I made on my site, reacting to the offer sheet for Jeremy Lin back in July:

I'm not even sure what Houston is doing anymore. Their first attempt at Dwight seemed reasonable, sending picks and being able to keep a few key players...but now, the rumors that they are willing to trade basically the entire team, take on three bad contracts, AND give this amount of money to Lin and/or Asik...it strikes me as desperate.

If you're going to go all in, you should be sure you're building a contender. If they land Dwight, they won't contend, and they may lose him in the summer. If they don't land him, keep what they have, amnesty Scola (they did), and pick up Lin and/or Asik, they aren't improving THAT much.

Assuming the end game is Lin, Asik and rookies...then deal the rookies for a two-guard, and meanwhile, find a team that wants to take Kevin Martin off your hands for a draft pick, so you can get out from underneath that $13 million this season. What if the Thunder really are looking to deal Harden or Ibaka? The interest was there for Beal, so you'd have to assume they thought about a Harden/Beal trade. Go after Harden with the rookies, then maybe look into the FA pool to fill out the rest of the roster.



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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:36 PM

See what happens when Real Deal reaches and posts opinions? Things happen.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:39 PM

See what happens when Real Deal reaches and posts opinions? Things happen.

Yep, it's nuts...it's like when I entertained the idea of a Dwight/Nash combo, doubted it, and it just happened.

It would be crazy if LeBron James were to come here via free agency in 2014...











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#115 LakersFanatic

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:40 PM

Hilarious. From a post I made on my site, reacting to the offer sheet for Jeremy Lin back in July:

Real Deal, please say the following :
If the Lakers are capable of getting LeBron and Dwayne wade for Steve Blake, blabla....

watch it happen a few weeks later :P

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:41 PM

Things are looking up for Houston, but I'm still not sure Lin was worth the money. That 26 game stretch he had was good, but not worth the gamble on a guy who went undrafted, especially now that he's coming of an injury.
IMO, Houston just should have kept Lowry or resigned Dragic both above average PG's.

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 09:46 PM

Yep, it's nuts...it's like when I entertained the idea of a Dwight/Nash combo, doubted it, and it just happened.

It would be crazy if LeBron James were to come here via free agency in 2014...











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gtfo of this forum and be a basketball analysts

#118 Cj2008nw

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 10:01 PM

Things are looking up for Houston, but I'm still not sure Lin was worth the money. That 26 game stretch he had was good, but not worth the gamble on a guy who went undrafted, especially now that he's coming of an injury.
IMO, Houston just should have kept Lowry or resigned Dragic both above average PG's.

I don't see how things are looking up for Houston

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 10:26 PM

I don't see how things are looking up for Houston


right they didn't upgrade at all with harden... :facepalm:

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Posted October 27, 2012 - 10:35 PM

I'm laughing at all of the people trying to big up K-Mart - You basically go from a guy who shoots 49% from the floor, plays defense and who can facilitate at a high level for a one-dimensional shooter, who shot jacks at 41%.




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