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#1 MDI


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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:25 PM

Seriously...Mike is so noncommittal about the bench, he wants to be fair and give everyone a chance but at the same time is misusing them and considers all these bench players "interchangeable". Then we have a mess like last year where players get inconsistent minutes and then you have a game of musical chairs going on with the bench. WTF is this? Just define their roles clearly instead of just leaving it open in the air. I understand its just preseason and this is where you try to learn what works and what doesn't but come on Ebanks cant be Kobe's backup it has to be Meeks. If anything he should be a 3/4 more than a 2/3, Ebanks doesn't have range like Meeks has and has zero ball handling/protection skills


The quiet motor in Devin Ebanks hardly yields much insight in interviews. A man of few words yet at the same time gracious, Ebanks has let his actions on the court give testament to his ongoing development entering his third season with the Lakers.

Whether it was under Phil Jackson or now with Mike Brown, the coaches have loved how Ebanks stays within his lane, devotes time to his craft and minimizes mistakes when given an opportunity. It's also part of the reason why the Lakers re-signed him to a one-year deal this off-season for a little over $1 million.And the early signs of training camp suggests Ebanks may be on the verge of having a bigger role.

The Lakers didn't keep Matt Barnes, automatically putting Ebanks behind Metta World Peace at the small forward position. But Brown said Ebanks may also play as the primary backup shooting guard spot behind Kobe Bryant.

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"The thing I like about him more than anything else is his length," Brown said of the 6-9 Ebanks. "If we have him at the 2, Antawn [Jamison] at the 3 and Jordan [Hill] at the 4, we're a long and athletic team. But Devin has to go earn it because Jodie Meeks has turned some heads."

In what he considers a "nice, healthy competition," Brown still touts Meeks as having the edge over Ebanks and Chris Douglas-Roberts. But the way Brown has used Ebanks in training camp suggests otherwise. In the Lakers' 110-83 preseason loss Sunday to the Golden State Warriors, Ebanks played as the the team's first backup shooting guard, scoring six points on three-of-six shooting in just under 13 minutes. Meeks, meanwhile, didn't play until the second half and scored five points in 10 minutes, 44 seconds. More importantly, Ebanks has played with the second team during most of the practice times open to the media.

But regardless of where he plays, just getting on the court is what matters to Ebanks.

"Honestly, it doesn't make a difference to me," he said. "I could play either two or three. Either way is interchangeable. Being a 2 and 3 in our offense is pretty much the same."

Ebanks sounded more focused on what the Lakers new offense that features elements of the Princeton system will do for his game.

"I like this offense way better than last year's," said Ebanks, who averaged four points on 41.6% shooting in 16.5 minutes last season. "There's a lot of movement, a lot of spacing and it gives you a lot of room to go one-on-one and take your defender. The offense is definitely good for me. I know where I'm going to get my shots. I know where I'm going to possibly get the ball if it gets kicked out to me or if I'm in a pick-and-roll situation or cutting situation."

Still, Ebanks spent a lot of time in the past two off-seasons working on the shooting guard spot. Most of that work has entailed ensuring more consistency in his shooting stroke, which the coaching staff believes led to his career-best 41.4% mark from the field. Ebanks mostly played at small forward last season because of the inconsistency at that position. World Peace entered training camp overweight. Though Barnes usually provided dependable energy and slashing abilities, he often shot too much from three-point range and committed unnecessary fouls. But Ebanks was solid at the shooting guard spot when he played for eight games while Bryant nursed a shin injury.

The Lakers value Meeks' marksmanship as a career 37% three-point shooter. That's why they signed him to a two-year, $3-million deal in hopes to improve the team's 25th-place ranking last season from behind the perimeter. But the Lakers also trust Ebanks' development.

"The one thing Devin is doing is he's trying to play within himself," Brown said. "He's playing confidently. He's trying to play defense. He's trying to rebound. We all know he can shoot. We all know he can score at 6-9. As long as he plays within himself and doesn't try to do too much, he'll play fine."

Regardless of who ascends on the pecking order, Brown suggested he'd write the names in with a pencil more than pen. He considers anyone outside of the starting lineup interchangeable. Given the Lakers' complementary pieces with Jamisons scoring, Meeks' outside shooting, Hills' energy and Ebanks' length, Brown believes he can get enough flexibility to sort out various lineups.

As he always has, Ebanks vows to keep his quiet motor running regardless of how his role plays out.

Said Ebanks: "I have to stay ready for both positions."

Edited by MDI, November 06, 2012 - 06:06 PM.



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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:29 PM

I'll take CDR over Ebanks. What has Ebanks ever done in the league? He's completely unproven. You can give a slight edge to Ebanks on the defensive end (though CDR isn't too shabby himself), but offensively is where there's a huge difference. CDR's offensive game is way more diverse and skilled. CDR can create his own shot in a multitude of ways. Ebanks hardly can and Meeks (mainly spot-up specialty) not so much either (at least in comparison).

Edited by    , October 10, 2012 - 02:31 PM.


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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:31 PM

Goddamnit Mike Brown, Antawn Jamison is NOT a good fit at the 3...

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:32 PM


first of all WHY DID WE SIGNED MEEKS then

2nd why is Jamison Backing up the three. Mike HE IS 36 YEARS OLD! Make him a stretch 4 that's why we signed him

Mike is a good guy but his rotation sucks!




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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:34 PM

Mr. Potato Head at it already and it's just pre-season, oh boy.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:36 PM

Mr. Potato Head at it already and it's just pre-season, oh boy.

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Sometimes I'm just not sure what he's doing with his rotations. I know it's only the preseason, so I won't try to judge too quickly. But definitely last season he had me screaming at my TV at points. He'd play a Sessions/Blake combo at the guard spots when it clearly wasn't working. And he'd put out some of the worst lineups I've ever seen with Blake, Kapono, Murphy, McRoberts, and Pau, or 4 of those 5. That was probably the softest and worst defensive lineup you could have conjured up with the roster last season.

I really hope he learns his lesson. If Mike Brown [expletive]s up his coaching job a second season in a row I will be pissed.

Edited by bfc1125roy, October 10, 2012 - 02:37 PM.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:37 PM

Mike Brown is [expletive]ing clueless.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:41 PM

He better have his rotation set by the regular season.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:42 PM

bring back phil!
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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:46 PM

im [expletive]ing serious mike brown will screw up this team from a championship.




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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:56 PM

[ :smh: Mike Brown's at it again.
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Posted October 10, 2012 - 02:57 PM

I'm waiting for West Coast to come in here and defend him again.


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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:02 PM

I guess I should have been expecting this. He's Mr. Potato Head. All of the parts on his face are interchangeable so it should be obvious he'd think all the parts on the bench are interchangeable too. Unbelievable. :nah:
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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:06 PM

. Meeks is a spot up shooter, that's how he should be usedEhh, Brown is just experimenting. Rememberwhen Ebanks was our starting sf last year for the first couple of days? Brown is also missusing Meeks. He is a spot up shooter. We all learned from last year Mike is clueless when it comes to roations.

Edited by Dendenqueacku-Agewor619, October 10, 2012 - 03:07 PM.


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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:09 PM

He either knows something we don't, or he's delusional. Most likely the second one though.

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:24 PM

Here we go again with these type of rotations...

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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:26 PM

Damn mike brown is asking for it. Hoping for the best since it is pre season.
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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:31 PM

Sacre cause Hill is injured



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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:36 PM

Sacre cause Hill is injured



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Posted October 10, 2012 - 03:40 PM

I figured it out. Stern must of called Brown up. He said something all the lines of your team is too talented. I don't think they can be beat unless you do something. You need to find a way to make it fair on the rest of the league. You should use the young and inexperienced Devin Ebanks instead of the much better and experienced Jodie Meeks. That way your bench isn't very good. Now if you do that someone other than your Lakers has a chance to win the championship. If you do this I will pay you however much money you want under the table.

Edited by Texas Lakers Fan, October 10, 2012 - 03:41 PM.


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