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Posted October 03, 2012 - 09:45 PM


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Posted October 03, 2012 - 09:57 PM

If the Lakers don't win this year, I will wonder if if the Black Mamba can win one without him. We all talk about Kobe's 5 rings, but we have to remember, he has never won a title without Phil. If Brown brings us just one, I will be happy, and if he doesn't, I will concede that Phil was our MVP during all of those chips and not Kobe. I desperately want Kobe to win one without him. That will for sure secure his legacy.

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 10:04 PM

If the Lakers don't win this year, I will wonder if if the Black Mamba can win one without him. We all talk about Kobe's 5 rings, but we have to remember, he has never won a title without Phil. If Brown brings us just one, I will be happy, and if he doesn't,I will concede that Phil was our MVP during all of those chips and not Kobe. I desperately want Kobe to win one without him. That will for sure secure his legacy.

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 10:21 PM

If the Lakers don't win this year, I will wonder if if the Black Mamba can win one without him. We all talk about Kobe's 5 rings, but we have to remember, he has never won a title without Phil. If Brown brings us just one, I will be happy, and if he doesn't, I will concede that Phil was our MVP during all of those chips and not Kobe. I desperately want Kobe to win one without him. That will for sure secure his legacy.


I can easily turn that argument against you and say Phil can't win without Kobe or Jordan. Yet we all probably acknowledge that Phil is the greatest coach of all time.

These arguments don't hold any weight, I thought we saw the last of them after the whole "Kobe can't win without Shaq" bull[expletive]. If the Lakers don't win one more it's because of injury or lack of chemistry, probably not as much to do with not running the triangle, especially since the Princeton employs many of the same principles as the triangle offense (a reason why Kobe suggested it anyways).

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 10:40 PM

If there was any time he'd come back to the Lakers, it would be now. So, I think he's really done.

He said a few years ago that his first choice for an active player to build around would be Dwight Howard, so I think getting Dwight Howard would've made him come back to the Lakers if anything could've.

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 11:07 PM

It honestly doesn't matter either way. Michael Jordan has only won with Phil Jackson, and is considered by most as the greatest basketball player ever. How many of the all-time greats have won championships with multiple coaches anyway?

The only thing that was being held against Kobe was that he didn't win a championship as the number 1 guy. He was able to lead the Lakers to back-to-back championships, so I think he's done everything.

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 11:24 PM

It honestly doesn't matter either way. Michael Jordan has only won with Phil Jackson, and is considered by most as the greatest basketball player ever. How many of the all-time greats have won championships with multiple coaches anyway?

The only thing that was being held against Kobe was that he didn't win a championship as the number 1 guy. He was able to lead the Lakers to back-to-back championships, so I think he's done everything.


All I know is that Phil was there when he won all his chips. Can or will he ever win one without him? If he doesn't win one this year after everyone saying we have the best team on paper since who knows when, then will Phil ever come up in the conversation? What I'm saying is that if Kobe doesn't win a title in the next few years with this awesome team everyone is talking about, will it all come back to Phil? If Kobe can't win with this team without him, could he win one without him ever?

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 11:30 PM

All I know is that Phil was there when he won all his chips. Can or will he ever win one without him? If he doesn't win one this year after everyone saying we have the best team on paper since who knows when, then will Phil ever come up in the conversation? What I'm saying is that if Kobe doesn't win a title in the next few years with this awesome team everyone is talking about, will it all come back to Phil? If Kobe can't win with this team without him, could he win one without him ever?


It won't. Because that argument hasn't come up for any other player. Nobody holds great coaching against any player. Most great players have had great coaches when they've won championships.

Again, does that come up with Michael Jordan? Does that prevent people from calling him the greatest player ever? No.

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 11:32 PM

If the Lakers don't win this year, I will wonder if if the Black Mamba can win one without him. We all talk about Kobe's 5 rings, but we have to remember, he has never won a title without Phil. If Brown brings us just one, I will be happy, and if he doesn't, I will concede that Phil was our MVP during all of those chips and not Kobe. I desperately want Kobe to win one without him. That will for sure secure his legacy.

Phil wouldnt have won those 5 witout kobe and kobe wouldnt have won them without phil. Same with the kobe shaq argument. Personally i'm gonna give MB another chance this season. He has a great team and he has accepted the changes in his coaching staff to make the team better. To be fair he had a tough team to put on the court too. Lots of bench players who stunk it up. I mean barnes and blake were our best bench players. Also had a disgruntled bynum who definalty needed to start over somewhere else. He had massive pg issues and for like 3/4 of the season a hobbled over weight MWP.

I think we all should give MB a fresh start. When you look at it from a whole he was in a bad situation and honestly didnt have much of a chance to do anything with them.

Lets just put it this way. I would much rather have him than Spoelstra.

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Posted October 03, 2012 - 11:54 PM

Phil is one lucky man.
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Posted October 04, 2012 - 05:47 AM

I hate these dumb ass arguments. When you discredit great players OR coaches for what they've accomplished, you look like an idiot.

You're not winning [expletive] at the professional level without good/great coaches and players.

Pau Gasol is GONE


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Posted October 04, 2012 - 07:38 AM

This Kobe Phil thing was being discussed on another Laker site so I thought I'd bring it up here. I just want to see him win one without Phil .

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Posted October 04, 2012 - 08:33 AM

I see another guy begging to be put on my ignore list.

Kobe can't win without Phil? Seriously?


As for Phil missing coaching, he WILL coach again as long as he's healthy. He's an addict.

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Posted October 04, 2012 - 08:46 AM

If the Lakers don't win this year, I will wonder if if the Black Mamba can win one without him. We all talk about Kobe's 5 rings, but we have to remember, he has never won a title without Phil. If Brown brings us just one, I will be happy, and if he doesn't, I will concede that Phil was our MVP during all of those chips and not Kobe. I desperately want Kobe to win one without him. That will for sure secure his legacy.

Another shot at Kobe......classic.

I know Phil wasn't in the game killing everyone in the 2010 playoffs. Or ripping out the suns heart.






You bring up Kobe......what about Jordan?

You are kinda sounding like a troll.

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Posted October 04, 2012 - 10:30 AM

watching these videos makes me miss Lamar Odom

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Posted October 04, 2012 - 11:59 AM

If the Lakers don't win this year, I will wonder if if the Black Mamba can win one without him. We all talk about Kobe's 5 rings, but we have to remember, he has never won a title without Phil. If Brown brings us just one, I will be happy, and if he doesn't, I will concede that Phil was our MVP during all of those chips and not Kobe. I desperately want Kobe to win one without him. That will for sure secure his legacy.

Secure his legacy? already done where do we put the statue? Jordan didn't win one without Phil so....no legacy?

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Posted October 04, 2012 - 12:28 PM

All I know is that Phil was there when he won all his chips. Can or will he ever win one without him? If he doesn't win one this year after everyone saying we have the best team on paper since who knows when, then will Phil ever come up in the conversation? What I'm saying is that if Kobe doesn't win a title in the next few years with this awesome team everyone is talking about, will it all come back to Phil? If Kobe can't win with this team without him, could he win one without him ever?

Clearly a troll post.
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Posted October 04, 2012 - 04:42 PM

Phil will be back coaching someday...getting swept is not a happy way to retired.....

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Posted October 04, 2012 - 06:15 PM

Thank you Windu!!

Everyone, there's no argument. Read Windu's post and realize that's the truth, nothing more, nothing less.

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Posted October 07, 2012 - 01:56 PM

I see another guy begging to be put on my ignore list.

Kobe can't win without Phil? Seriously?


As for Phil missing coaching, he WILL coach again as long as he's healthy. He's an addict.


Hes already on mine.

Edited by FiveSixDeuce, October 07, 2012 - 01:56 PM.





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